Armenians: Do they have any Indo-European genes?

[Tigranes]

From the documentary "Les grands voyages de l‘humanité"/"Die Reise der Menschheit" (Cristina Trebbi and Christian Twente, Germany, 2018). It was broadcasted by ARTE a public Franco-German TV network that promotes programming in the areas of culture and the arts.

This clip highlights the new theory put forward by the Max Planck Institute that Armenia is the Proto-Indo European homeland.

From the video, Russell Gray : "According to us, the best hypothesis is the one which brings together genetic and linguistic data. They [the Proto-Indo-Europeans] would have lived east of the fertile crescent about 8000 years ago ... We believe that the origin is here in the southern Caucasus, eastern Anatolia, Armenia, and perhaps in northern Iran about 8,000 years ago"

"The most likely location of the population that first spoke an Indo-European language was south of the Caucasus Mountains, perhaps in presend-day Iran or Armenia, because Ancient DNA from people who lived there matches what we would expect for a source population both for the Yamnaya and for ancient Anatolians".
-David Reich ("Who We Are and How We Got Here: Ancient DNA and the New Science of the Human Past", 2018, p.120)

For more information watch: https://youtu.be/UsXrwDqHJ8U

[Danaan]

PIEans were EEF but some groups during the late PIE stage mixed primarily with WHGs (Celtic, Baltic certainly) others primarily with CHGs (Greek, Aryan).

The homeland in Armenia, NE Anatolia, Caucasus, S. Iran or the steppes doesn't make much sense essentially. Anatolian languages were mostly in the South and West Anatolia.

Iran N people were speaking a language more similar to Elamite or even Dravidian and the Steppe EMBA people a language more similar to North East Caucasian (but even more exotic).

[Danaan]

PIEans were EEF but some groups during the late PIE stage mixed primarily with WHGs (Celtic, Baltic certainly) others primarily with CHGs (Greek, Aryan).

The homeland in Armenia, NE Anatolia, Caucasus, S. Iran or the steppes doesn't make much sense essentially. Anatolian languages were mostly in the South and West Anatolia.

Iran N people were speaking a language more similar to Elamite or even Dravidian and the Steppe EMBA people a language more similar to North East Caucasian (but even more exotic).

[Leto]

Don't pay too much attention to these BS "academic" samples. They're highly inaccurate and very dubious especially when comparing their results to real life people. Steer clear of those caspianoid kits.

Post your average then. You always criticize other data but you have not even ordered a test for yourself.

[Karaton]

They used most of those caspianoid samples for Global 25 because they were "academic". This was coming from Davidski himself.

I'm not talking about the Global G25. I'm talking about the spreadsheet Leto posted.

[FinalFlash]

Yes, that's why it was still speaking Urartian in the 7th century BC.

The Armenian language was attested for a bit before the 7th century BC.

[FinalFlash]

Post your average then. You always criticize other data but you have not even ordered a test for yourself.

When I have time, I will post the averages of many kits I promise you.

[Tigranes]

When I have time, I will post the averages of many kits I promise you.

What does this chart tell? I found this on r/armenia, but I'm not that good at genetics stuff. Weren't Europeans supposed to be closer to the Yamnaya?

[Ayetooey]

What does this chart tell? I found this on r/armenia, but I'm not that good at genetics stuff. Weren't Europeans supposed to be closer to the Yamnaya?

Comparison here. And Yamnaya were something like 50% CHG 50% EHG so not particularly close to modern Euros; closest pops are NE Euros and north Caucacus people according to this chart.

[Tigranes]

Comparison here. And Yamnaya were something like 50% CHG 50% EHG so not particularly close to modern Euros; closest pops are NE Euros and north Caucacus people according to this chart.

Sardinians literally have no Yamnaya admixture, but they're speaking an Indo-European language as well, while North Caucasians have considerable amount of Yamnaya admixture, but they are speaking non Indo-European, Nakh languages. I don't see any relation between Proto-Indo-European and Yamnaya.