Armenians: Do they have any Indo-European genes?

[MS85]

*genetics is bullshit* top argument 2019.

*Brings up Max Planck institute, well known for being contrarian to just about any agreed mainstream opinion*

Let's be honest, you all just want to feel good about yourself and aggrandize your own country/region, everyone else somehow manages to accept that their country or region is not in fact the center of the world but you can't, that tells more about you than anything else.

It says actually something about you than about anything else. It is you who is actually denying the scientific facts. You just can't accept that the region where you are from was not very import in the ancient world. Region where you are from was uncivilized and populated by very primitive hunter-gatherers, who were also cannibals. Later on some civilization came to the Steppes from Iran and people started to behave like humans in the Steppes.


Just an advise, educate yourself and go and study the ancient history. Maybe you will find out that it is actually not really smart trying to steal history from other regions.


Max Planck institute is unbiased, unlike wannabe Aryans and uneducated retard amteurs from the Eastern Europe.

[MS85]

At least they are twin brothers. Take a look for example at the book "The Solution to the Hittite Question" by Peter Jensen where Jensen said that Armenian is the closest language to the Hittite language, and Armenians themselves a remnant of Hittites.

Hittite DNA is very different from the modern Armenian DNA.

What we know is that ancient Armenians lived next to the Hittites homeland and that Armenians were close to the Hittites. But it doesn't really matter.

It has been said that the Hittites predate Yamnaya and the Hittites were pretty native to Anatolia. Their proto-Anatolian ancestors were even much older and live in Anatolia for thousands of years even long before people in the Steppes became civilized (by farming).

[RenaRyuguu]

Some do some don't. For example the Kardashians don't. They are not real Armenian.

[Leto]

It says actually something about you than about anything else. It is you who is actually denying the scientific facts. You just can't accept that the region where you are from was not very import in the ancient world. Region where you are from was uncivilized and populated by very primitive hunter-gatherers, who were also cannibals. Later on some civilization came to the Steppes from Iran and people started to behave like humans in the Steppes.


Just an advise, educate yourself and go and study the ancient history. Maybe you will find out that it is actually not really smart trying to steal history from other regions.


Max Planck institute is unbiased, unlike wannabe Aryans and uneducated retard amteurs from the Eastern Europe.

Dude, why do you keep spreading your Kurdish supremacism here? You literally say Kurds are superior, everyone else is a primitive monkey. The same goes for Armenian nationalism. After all it is supposed to be a European cultural community. I've never said Slavs or Russians were Aryans for example, that's a false accusation. In fact I've always said here and in other places (such as right-wing comment sections) that no European group has ever identified as Aryan, that label is foreign to Europe. The Slavs called themselves Sloven, the Germanics called themselves deutsch, Romans - Roman, Greeks - Hellene, etc. However, I do believe that the Yamnaya culture and its later offshoots such as the Corded Ware, Sintashta, etc. were genetically European. They were not Middle Eastern, they were not South Asian, they were not East Asian. That has been proven by multiple studies. If modern Indians or Iranians are different from those pre-historic groups and presumably don't look like them, that's not a reason to twist the facts only in order to make someone feel good.

[Leto]

Kurds are considered non-civilized illiterate nomads by Arabs and Turks. Partisan Girl/Syrian Girl (popular political commentator) has said so for example (foreign nomads, not native to Syria).

[MS85]

Dude, why do you keep spreading your Kurdish supremacism here?

No, I'm just countering the Eastern European fake supremacism.

Yamnaya was partly West Asian in nature. And not 100% European. This is a fact. The Anatolian Hittites predate Yamnaya and the proto-Anatolian IEans were just native to Anatolia. This is also a fact.


Btw, modern Europeans have for about 1/3 of Yamnaya ancestry. Some even less.

[Leto]

No, I'm just countering the Eastern European fake supremacism.

Yamnaya was partly West Asian in nature. And not 100% European. This is a fact. The Anatolian Hittites predate Yamnaya and the proto-Anatolian IEans were just native to Anatolia. This is also a fact.


Btw, modern Europeans have for about 1/3 of Yamnaya ancestry. Some even less.

Yes, they were around 55% Euro HG and 45% Caucasus HG but the Caucasus is not the Middle East or South Asia. The Corded Ware were more EHG than the Yamnaya (they were ~75% Yamnaya).

[MS85]

Kurds are considered non-civilized illiterate nomads by Arabs and Turks. Partisan Girl/Syrian Girl (popular political commentator) has said so for example (foreign nomads, not native to Syria).

Lol, who is Partisan Girl/Syrian Girl? What an irony that Bedouin Syrian Arabs are calling Kurds uncivilized. It were actually the Aryan Kurds and Aryan Persians who brought civilization to the Arabs and the Arab world.

That Syrian Girl drank so much camel piss that camel piss comes out of her mouth every time she opens it.

[MS85]

Yes, they were around 55% Euro HG and 45% Caucasus HG but the Caucasus is not the Middle East or South Asia. The Corded Ware were more EHG than the Yamnaya (they were ~75% Yamnaya).

No, DNA has shown that it came from the South of Caucasus. And it is not ancient Caucasus HG. But if you study it is actually similar to the Copper Age Iranian Plateau auDNA.

Corded Ware was not PIEan and has nothing to do with the PIEan. Corded Ware was just a local Indo-Europeanized culture. Nothing to do with the Hittites or the Myceneans or first stage Indo-Europeans.

Europeans are just a mixture between ancient WHG, Neolithic Anatolian Farmers and IEan Yamnaya folks. On average they are even less than 1/3 Yamnaya which was even a second stage PIEan.

[Leto]

Lol, who is Partisan Girl/Syrian Girl? What an irony that Bedouin Syrian Arabs are calling Kurds uncivilized. It were actually the Aryan Kurds and Aryan Persians who brought civilization to the Arabs and Arab world.

That Syrian Girl drank so much camel piss that camel piss comes out of her mouth every time she opens it.

Syria and the Levant in general had been a major center of civilization for centuries before Islam came to be, they weren't Bedouins. The Arab identity emerged after the rise of Islam and the Islamization of the Middle East and North Africa.