Do you believe in UFOs?

[Aldaris]

Sure but nothing like that.

Rather years ago, was woken up around 2 am by a glow from outside that was really lighting up the bedroom. Got up, looked out the window, and it was almost as if someone had 'pulled the sun out of the sky'. A large glowing sphere was sitting in the farmer's field that bordered the church graveyard. It wasn't much smaller than the Victorian church & almost too bright to make out that there was something within the light.

So unless divinities (either god or angels) now travel by "capsule" it certainly wasn't of this earth.

I've heard of many, many cases like that, few of them being experiences of my friends and they're not superstitious at all. It is hard to ignore all the cumulative evidence, even for a rationalist like me. Such apparitions being more frequent on religious sites is a well known pattern, not sure, if you knew that. I consider all the seemingly paranormal phenomena to be from the same source, because the psychological and sociological effects they produce are identical. That's the main reason, but not nearly the the only one. What is the said source? I wish I knew. Maybe some AI from another universe went haywire.

[Aldaris]

They are likely to be demonic.

Assuming Christianity is true, that conclusion would almost be necessary. Terrorizing and deceiving, sounds quite familiar.

[SvartVarg]

I've heard of many, many cases like that, few of them being experiences of my friends and they're not superstitious at all. It is hard to ignore all the cumulative evidence, even for a rationalist like me. Such apparitions being more frequent on religious sites is a well known pattern, not sure, if you knew that. I consider all the seemingly paranormal phenomena to be from the same source, because the psychological and sociological effects they produce are identical. That's the main reason, but not nearly the the only one. What is the said source? I wish I knew. Maybe some AI from another universe went haywire.

Ah, got you. Not superstitious myself. As for such events happening often near religious sites, that's actually quite interesting. I've heard about lights / UFOs around hills, farmer's fields, the backwoods, etc. but not that often near religious sites. If I may, do you know if such events ever make the news? Because what I saw never did where I was living at the time.

[Aldaris]

Ah, got you. Not superstitious myself. As for such events happening often near religious sites, that's actually quite interesting. I've heard about lights / UFOs around hills, farmer's fields, the backwoods, etc. but not that often near religious sites. If I may, do you know if such events ever make the news? Because what I saw never did where I was living at the time.

There are certain places in the world, where weird stuff seems to be happening at much higher rate. It is possible, that this is precisely the reason, why they've become places of religious significance in the first place. Afterall, many of our churches have been built on ancient pagan sites. Do such events make the news? Absolutely. There are dozens of famous UFO cases of all kinds, which were highly publicized, but most of them are from the period of 1950-1990. Since then, the phenomemon seems to be on the decrease, considering all it's aspects. There are still reports, which make it to the news, but they are unreliable and insignificant, for the most part. I'm not aware of anything akin to Phoenix lights or cattle mutilation wave in the sixties. This however shouldn't be too surprising for someone familiar with the phenomenon's patterns of behavior. It comes in waves since ancient times. It sets foundations for the modification of our belief systems and once they're set - nothing.

[Loki]

Assuming Christianity is true, that conclusion would almost be necessary. Terrorizing and deceiving, sounds quite familiar.

Yeah, and there's actually a lot of talk recently about aliens & UFOs being demonic in origin. Loads of YouTube videos on the topic, I haven't really looked into it that deeply yet. But it would totally make sense to me. I haven't heard of many people saying they're benevolent beings... almost always it's scary or negative an experience that people have with them.

[SvartVarg]

Yeah, and there's actually a lot of talk recently about aliens & UFOs being demonic in origin. Loads of YouTube videos on the topic, I haven't really looked into it that deeply yet. But it would totally make sense to me. I haven't heard of many people saying they're benevolent beings... almost always it's scary or negative an experience that people have with them.

Demonic or not, there are certainly stories where UFOs & aliens do not appear to be benevolent. The cattle & livestock mutilation, the human mutilations in Brazil (Guarapiranga Reservoir), the odd disappearances of people in certain areas, 1950 story of AF Lovette & Cunningham, etc.

[greasycaveman]

Ive saw something weird like some kind of light in the sky just staying still in one place and then moving incredibly fast away and I couldnt see it anymore. Sometimes I wonder.

[Loki]

Demonic or not, there are certainly stories where UFOs & aliens do not appear to be benevolent. The cattle & livestock mutilation, the human mutilations in Brazil (Guarapiranga Reservoir), the odd disappearances of people in certain areas, 1950 story of AF Lovette & Cunningham, etc.

They seem to be nasty little things, whatever they are.

[Smeagol]

Yes, but I don't believe in aliens. I agree UFOs do seem to be associated with Demonic entities.

[Lucia]

After this I kind of do. It freaks me out a bit...