View Poll Results: Most decisive battle in history?

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  • Marathon (490 BC)

    3 10.34%
  • Syracuse (413 BC)

    0 0%
  • Arbela (331 BC)

    0 0%
  • Metaurus (207 BC)

    0 0%
  • Teutoborg Forest (AD 9)

    3 10.34%
  • Châlons (AD 451)

    1 3.45%
  • Tours (AD 732)

    7 24.14%
  • Hastings (AD 1066)

    0 0%
  • Orléans (AD 1429)

    0 0%
  • Spanish Armada (AD 1588)

    2 6.90%
  • Blenheim (AD 1704)

    0 0%
  • Pultowa (AD 1709)

    1 3.45%
  • Saratoga (AD 1777)

    1 3.45%
  • Valmy (AD 1792)

    1 3.45%
  • Waterloo (AD 1815)

    1 3.45%
  • Stalingrad (AD 1942-1943)

    7 24.14%
  • Midway (AD 1942)

    0 0%
  • Other

    2 6.90%
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Thread: History's most decisive battle?

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    Teutoburg, Salamis, Manzikert, Ice, Stalingrad are all decisive.
    Choosing 1 is difficult.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sikeliot View Post
    I don't know its name, but the battle that stopped Moorish expansion into France. If it wasn't for this, all of Europe may be Muslim today. o.0
    Quote Originally Posted by Libertas View Post
    It's the battle of Tours in the year 732, Safety Pin.
    In 732, at Tours in France, the Franks defeated a Arab vanguard army, it was not main army of Umeyyads. Had Arabs brought their main army, they would have crushed most likely the French.
    European (Western civilization) was in its genesis years in early 8th century, it was weak. It was not yet what it shall become during late 11th century during the Crusades.

    The Islamization of Europe was stopped by.. interestingly... Turks (Khazers).


    Arab Muslims were stopped in 642 for the first time ever in pitch battle by Turkic Khazars in Caucasus region of Dagestan. The Arab army went beyond Caspian Gates and attacked and fought Hazar Turks in what's today Dagestan.
    First time ever Arab Islamic army was defeated in pitch battle.

    Decades later wars resumed between Khazars and Umayyads.
    Arabs gained Transcaucasia (Armenia and around) but they couldn't permanently control what's beyond Caspian Gates (European continent).

    In 720's, Arabs sacked Khazar capital Balanjar.
    In turn, in 730 Khazars replied by attacking Azerbaijan, defeating an Arab army in pitch battle at Marj Ardabil.
    Khazars sacked parts of north Iraq after that battle.



    Umayyad main army was busy dealing with them and couldn't send troops to France where Franks defeated small army led by Ar Rahman.

    Later Turks became the warriors of Islam themselves but in the beginning Turks were like main power on earth to stop the onslaught of Arab armies who were fighting bravely.

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    Stalingrad but kursk also too, my grandfather fought in kursk

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    The Rape of Constantinople in AD 1453

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    Quote Originally Posted by Böri View Post
    In 732, at Tours in France, the Franks defeated a Arab vanguard army, it was not main army of Umeyyads. Had Arabs brought their main army, they would have crushed most likely the French.
    European (Western civilization) was in its genesis years in early 8th century, it was weak. It was not yet what it shall become during late 11th century during the Crusades.

    According to arab source the arab army had around 50 000 soldiers at the begining of the campain. In the battle it goes to 20 000 to 50 000 with 12 000 deaths.
    How it can only be a vanguard army with number like that? Back in the time army were far more smaller.

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    Moscow Nov/Dec 1941, THAT is where the third reich lost the war and not in Stalingrad or Kursk.

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    As Spaniard, the battle of Covadonga, where Iberians sttoped Muslims in Asturias starting the glorious Reconquista.

    As European, probably Stalingrado. With the victory of Zionism, Europe became a cadaver.

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    None of those.
    It's this one:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_...7%E2%80%93718)
    Much more significant victory than the battle of Tours, which is very often mentioned.

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