Gaulish appreciation thread

[Phenix]

For info, France is a Latin country with Gallo-Belgian Celtic roots and Germanic influence, but most importantly Greek and Roman cultural basis, so claiming it as Celt is false.

NOS ANCESTRES LES GAULOIS

No more third republic propaganda please, French used to rehash this damn phrase all over the colonial schools, no need to describe the confusion amongst African kids when instituters read it.

[Phenix]

Some Gaulish art.

[TheOldNorth]

[QUOTE=Phenix;6166925]For info, France is a Latin country with Gallo-Belgian Celtic roots and Germanic influence, but most importantly Greek and Roman cultural basis, so claiming it as Celt is false.

[QUOTE=frankham

No more third republic propaganda please, French used to rehash this damn phrase all over the colonial schools, no need to describe the confusion amongst African kids when instituters read it.[/QUOTE]

They are a celtic people by blood and heritage, except the southern french, they're gallo-greco-roman meds, while my northern french dudes are mostly celtic with some germanic blood in the east and tiny amounts of norse in normandy

[TheOldNorth]

important to note that the boar was a symbol of the warrior among the gauls, and indo-europeans in general, and was used commonly in art. A torc (that golden c shaped necklace thing) has been theorized to be an item showing an individuals wealth and/or status. The horse was holy as cavalry was common in gaul, and were used for chariots before that with the goddess Epona being their patron.

[Phenix]

They are a celtic people by blood and heritage, except the southern french, they're gallo-greco-roman meds, while my northern french dudes are mostly celtic with some germanic blood in the east and tiny amounts of norse in normandy

Genetics doesn't mean much, culturally they are Latin. Plus, the entire Gaul was romanised, not only the Southern province of Narbonnaise (our province in Latin), even the Armorican coasts who is now home of later immigrant group of Bretons (Celtic fleeing Britain after Germanic invasions) used to be of Gallo-Roman culture.

[coolfrenchguy]

dig dive by the side of the linguons or ligones is one of the oldest proto-gaulish tribe they are relinked to the austrian hälstatt culture at the iron age
we kicked the romans outside seen lyon/laugdunum history,i don't know exactly my ancestry but i'am not med i'am a NW i have maybe baltic vikings orgins,seen burgandy i'am half burgand half britain but my mom is from burgandy,of course i'am born in paris and an ex parisianer,but my roots are clearly from around there,more than britain,i think than i'am tavastid/neo-danubian mix,like 70% tavastid 30% neo-danubian,is why my theory than maybe i'am relinked of very far to the baltic vikings tribes because they spread until switzerland,is not impossible,burgandy is central north east just in the plain middle of the frank charles magnus empire stucked between germania , lombardia and the souabs,called later bavaria/franken/franconie,(Verdun traitee 843-> Charles the bald -> 1200 ->Louis II the germanic->germanic Saint Empire ->Lothaire the 1st etc...). or in the modern area a bit down alsace and on the west of switzerland,that's for my short story

the territory of the ligones,and the ligones are the funders of gaule

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lingones

[coolfrenchguy]

[QUOTE=TheOldNorth;6166935]

For info, France is a Latin country with Gallo-Belgian Celtic roots and Germanic influence, but most importantly Greek and Roman cultural basis, so claiming it as Celt is false.



They are a celtic people by blood and heritage, except the southern french, they're gallo-greco-roman meds, while my northern french dudes are mostly celtic with some germanic blood in the east and tiny amounts of norse in normandy

yavoll mein freund,joke aside ,this visceral thing that people wants latinised the celts it's amazing,and the ethnic french by the same way,did you try the same propangada with our batavians friends? i don't think than "this latinisation of the celts" thing really works in netherlands

seen the noordwestblock theory
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nordwestblock

[TheOldNorth]

Genetics doesn't mean much, culturally they are Latin. Plus, the entire Gaul was romanised, not only the Southern province of Narbonnaise (our province in Latin), even the Armorican coasts who is now home of later immigrant group of Bretons (Celtic fleeing Britain after Germanic invasions) used to be of Gallo-Roman culture.

The Bretons are not a full blooded as their welsh brethren, they come up as far more German and French on 23&me and clearly had some mixing

[TheOldNorth]

dig dive by the side of the linguons or ligones is one of the oldest proto-gaulish tribe they are relinked to the austrian hälstatt culture at the iron age
we kicked the romans outside seen lyon/laugdunum history,i don't know exactly my ancestry but i'am not med i'am a NW i have maybe baltic vikings orgins,seen burgandy i'am half burgand half britain but my mom is from burgandy,of course i'am born in paris and an ex parisianer,but my roots are clearly from around there,more than britain,i think than i'am tavastid/neo-danubian mix,like 70% tavastid 30% neo-danubian,is why my theory than maybe i'am relinked of very far to the baltic vikings tribes because they spread until switzerland,is not impossible,burgandy is central north east just in the plain middle of the frank charles magnus empire stucked between germania , lombardia and the souabs,called later bavaria/franken/franconie,(Verdun traitee 843-> Charles the bald -> 1200 ->Louis II the germanic->germanic Saint Empire ->Lothaire the 1st etc...). or in the modern area a bit down alsace and on the west of switzerland,that's for my short story

the territory of the ligones,and the ligones are the funders of gaule

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lingones

I actually subscribe to the opposing theory that the Gauls were originally Bronze Age Atlantic traders that assimilated the alpine peoples with Celtic languages while adopting their art

[Grace O'Malley]

The Bretons are not a full blooded as their welsh brethren, they come up as far more German and French on 23&me and clearly had some mixing

You can't use something like 23&Me or Ancestry to assess ancient populations. All these companies use populations today to match you against. Irish for example will get nearly 100% British & Irish because the panel for British & Irish is using Irish for that category so naturally any Irish person is going to match a panel made up of other Irish people. You need ancient genomes to match against not modern population panels. If they have a North French category on 23&Me Northern French would get nearly 100% but there is no Northern French category instead they have a very large category called French & German which means no population will get 100% for that because it covers too many populations. These companies aren't looking at ancient ancestry.

There is a study coming out next year which should have some Gauls. Then we can get a look at what Gauls looked like before Roman occupation. France has had a lot of other input since the time of the Gauls and the study next year is going to look at genomes from different periods in France's history and compare them against the French today. This is the only way you can see if the present day French have changed since the time of the Gauls.