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Are Hungarians descended from local Scythians?
Check this Hungarian Scythian sample, pretty close to modern Hungarians:
GEDmatch Kit Number: HR6053540
Name: DA191 Hungary Scythian 550 BC
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I will upload more Hungarian Scythians for comparison.
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Yes, in Hungary this is a national origin legend that hungarians are descedants of scythians (szittya in hungarian langauge) and scythians are part of hungarian national culture. It can be true or not but interesting that the hungarian ruler dynasty (House of Árpád) had r1a-z93 marker which originated from iranic peoples:
https://link.springer.com/article/10...520-018-0609-7
"Proto-Indo-Iranian speakers, the people who later called themselves 'Aryans' in the Rig Veda and the Avesta, originated in the Sintashta-Petrovka culture (2100-1750 BCE), in the Tobol and Ishim valleys, east of the Ural Mountains. It was founded by pastoralist nomads from the Abashevo culture (2500-1900 BCE), ranging from the upper Don-Volga to the Ural Mountains, and the Poltavka culture (2700-2100 BCE), extending from the lower Don-Volga to the Caspian depression.
The Sintashta-Petrovka culture, associated with R1a-Z93 and its subclades, was the first Bronze Age advance of the Indo-Europeans west of the Urals, opening the way to the vast plains and deserts of Central Asia to the metal-rich Altai mountains. The Aryans quickly expanded over all Central Asia, from the shores of the Caspian to southern Siberia and the Tian Shan, through trading, seasonal herd migrations, and looting raids.
Horse-drawn war chariots seem to have been invented by Sintashta people around 2100 BCE, and quickly spread to the mining region of Bactria-Margiana (modern border of Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, Tajikistan and Afghanistan). Copper had been extracted intensively in the Urals, and the Proto-Indo-Iranians from Sintashta-Petrovka were exporting it in huge quantities to the Middle East. They appear to have been attracted by the natural resources of the Zeravshan valley for a Petrovka copper-mining colony was established in Tugai around 1900 BCE, and tin was extracted soon afterwards at Karnab and Mushiston. Tin was an especially valued resource in the late Bronze Age, when weapons were made of copper-tin alloy, stronger than the more primitive arsenical bronze. In the 1700's BCE, the Indo-Iranians expanded to the lower Amu Darya valley and settled in irrigation farming communities (Tazabagyab culture). By 1600 BCE, the old fortified towns of Margiana-Bactria were abandoned, submerged by the northern steppe migrants. The group of Central Asian cultures under Indo-Iranian influence is known as the Andronovo horizon, and lasted until 800 BCE."
https://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplo...l#Indo-Iranian
Proto-hungarians were part of iranic andronovo culture:
"The Andronovo culture is a collection of similar local Bronze Age cultures that flourished c. 2000–900 BC in western Siberia and the central Eurasian Steppe.[1] Some researchers have preferred to term it an archaeological complex or archaeological horizon.[2] The older Sintashta culture (2100–1800 BC), formerly included within the Andronovo culture, is now considered separately, but regarded as its predecessor, and accepted as part of the wider Andronovo horizon.
Most researchers associate the Andronovo horizon with early Indo-Iranian languages, though it may have overlapped the early Uralic-speaking area at its northern fringe.[3]"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andronovo_culture
"During the 4th millennium BC, the Uralic-speaking peoples who were living in the central and southern regions of the Urals split up. Some dispersed towards the west and northwest and came into contact with Iranian speakers who were spreading northwards.[28] From at least 2000 BC onwards, the Ugrian speakers became distinguished from the rest of the Uralic community, of which the ancestors of the Magyars, being located farther south, were the most numerous. Judging by evidence from burial mounds and settlement sites, they interacted with the Indo-Iranian Andronovo culture.[29]"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hungarians
I'm not saying that hungarians and scythians were same because the first one has finno-ugric origin, scythians have iranic, but they are related in many ways, and hungarians partly can be scythians.
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Scythians dissapeared long time ago and blended into other ethnic groups. So no, not any more than other Europeans in the region.
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pm me video of hungarian news where stears was spotted in some demostrationOriginally Posted by Feiichy
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Why ?pm me video of hungarian news where stears was spotted in some demostration
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it was so funny, i wanna see stears in warrior mode
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More Hungarian Scythians:
DA194 Hungary Scythian - kit number GB8615749
DA195 Hungary Scythian - kit number GN2826307
DA197 Hungary Scythian - kit number UM3393611
DA198 Hungary Scythian - kit number SK9891773
Hungary is mostly steppe, farmers could not settle there. Hungarian Scythians could only mix with other nomads.
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Only small part of Alfold is steppe. Hungary and Panonnia has most fertile land in Europe along with Ukraine. Not to mention neolithic cultures flourished in Carpathian Basin.
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hat persze szittya vagyunk !
Closest population distances
Population
Distance
DA191_Hungary_Scythian 1.201268
SZ22_Longobard 1.317721
BA_Hungary_BR2 1.343808
Visigoth_I12162 1.348685
EMA_Czech_RISE569 1.383248
IA_Britain_York_3DRIF16 1.394141
SZ5_Pannonian 1.398559
SZ11_Longobard 1.408457
Population
Value
DA191_Hungary_Scythian 15
Baiuvarii_Germanic_STr_220 12.4
BA_Hungary_BR2 10.8
IA_Britain_York_3DRIF16 9.4
EMA_Czech_RISE569 7.2
BA_Hungary_RISE479 3.4
Visigoth_I12162 3.2
AV1_Hungary_Szolad 2.6
Last edited by oszkar07; 08-08-2019 at 11:26 AM.
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