Anything about Albanian language

[Div]

Would Albanian be easier to learn from a Romance language speaker perspective in comparison to a Slavic language or it would be equally as difficult?

Equally as difficult, the amount of Romance words are mostly marine, art, and some technical stuff the communists introduced into the language when they studied in France. in terms of use for business you'd be better learning Serbo-Croatian or Russian.

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

Equally as difficult, the amount of Romance words are mostly marine, art, and some technical stuff the communists introduced into the language when they studied in France. in terms of use for business you'd be better learning Serbo-Croatian or Russian.

What about the grammar? I don't know if you are familiar with Romance languages gramatical structures. Perhaps Albanian is closer in that aspect or do you have also a lot of case systems like the Slavic languages?

[mamacia]

Fortson, Benjamin W. (2004). Indo-European language and culture: an introduction (5th ed.). Blackwell. p. 448. ISBN 978-1-4051-0316-9:

''The dialectal split into Geg and Tosk happened sometime after the region become Christianized in the fourth century AD; Christian Latin loanwords show Tosk rhotacism, such as Tosk murgu "monk" (Geg mungu) from Lat. monachus.''

So Albanians supposedly lived more or less in their present areas already in year 400 ?

[Div]

Fortson, Benjamin W. (2004). Indo-European language and culture: an introduction (5th ed.). Blackwell. p. 448. ISBN 978-1-4051-0316-9:

''The dialectal split into Geg and Tosk happened sometime after the region become Christianized in the fourth century AD; Christian Latin loanwords show Tosk rhotacism, such as Tosk murgu "monk" (Geg mungu) from Lat. monachus.''

So Albanians supposedly lived more or less in their present areas already in year 400 ?

Yes. Eqrem Cabej explains this as well. Its one of the strongest points to support a continual habitation of Albanians in the western Adriatic.

[JohnnyP]

Nothing exotic, Albanian language is created like mixing three different languages its yiddish,slavic and latin language in one.
Thats why there is not similar language to this only words...

[mamacia]

Equally as difficult, the amount of Romance words are mostly marine, art, and some technical stuff the communists introduced into the language when they studied in France. in terms of use for business you'd be better learning Serbo-Croatian or Russian.

Albanian shows Latin influence from the Roman period though, nothing to do with communists who I doubt had such an influence on the language as you claim, and there is more Latin influence than what you're saying, IMO. Some have even argued it's partially Latin. Makes sense since area of Central and the Western Balkans were under Roman occupation for the longest period.

Though its obviously not Latin, I noticed a lot of similarities with other Latin languages.

Latin is by far the foreign language that has influenced Albanian the most.

[Div]

Albanian shows Latin influence from the Roman period though, nothing to do with communists who I doubt had such an influence on the language as you claim, and there is more Latin influence than what you're saying, IMO. Some have even argued it's partially Latin. Makes sense since area of Central and the Western Balkans were under Roman occupation for the longest period.

Though its obviously not Latin, I noticed a lot of similarities with other Latin languages.

Latin is by far the foreign language that has influenced Albanian the most.

I referred to maritime words before. Communism had a huge influence on modern Albanian because the elite Communists who composed the modern language were mostly Tosks who were educated in Western Europe (Paris). Part of their programs were to shift and "Illyrianize" the language, which meant to remove Turkish or non-Albanian words.

[Glauk]

Nothing exotic, Albanian language is created like mixing three different languages its yiddish,slavic and latin language in one.
Thats why there is not similar language to this only words...

Yiddish??

[mamacia]

Nothing exotic, Albanian language is created like mixing three different languages its yiddish,slavic and latin language in one.
Thats why there is not similar language to this only words...

Funny how this is usually always claimed by Balkan Slavs, people who don't even speak Albanian but want to teach us about it's origins. I speak it and it's main ancestor is clearly from an Ancient Balkan language which was most probably Illyrian added with Latin influence and other various things later due to being exposed to such people or empires but it still has elements which aren't found in any of those languages you mentioned and which is why it forms a branch of itself in the IE language family basically.

It's Slavic influence is overrated I'd say, in fact it shows more similarities to Germanic rather than Slavic since I speak Albanian, German and various Scandinavian languages and also been around lots of Polish and Baltic people. A lot of it's element is like Germanic. There were even some earlier linguists that grouped it with Germanic. But also Balto-Slavic

It's similarities with Balto-Slavic is most likely due to a common IE ancestor. And not because of direct heavy Slavic influence. Same thing for Germanic. I'd rather say Balkan Slavic languages are a mix of Albanian and Slavic basically since Albanian or a similar type of language seems to of influenced and formed some of the Balkan Slavic languages basically.

The language that had the most influence on Albanian and changed it is clearly Latin and even there some of it might be from a common IE origin.

The Slavic influence in Albanian is absolutely overrated. Most of it is just from a common IE origin.


Also if Albanians show influence from all Empires that touched the Balkans then it just shows Albanians were present there which debunks the whole ''mentioned late'' argument which I have seen from some Serbs. I think that was merely due to the Balkans being invaded by Slavic tribes during year 600 to 900 or so and a lot of it's native population moving into the mountains and started living as shepherds until they appeared later. So there was a lack of historical record during that time period too due to all the chaos.

[Alboz]