Origin of E-V13

[TheMaestro]

Greek no like fish? NOOOO eat tuna and octopus

Tuna is only fish I can eat and that’s only if it’s on pizza, other than that I could literally throw up from fish.

[Luso]

West Morocco lol

True. Do you think it originated here and then went through fertile crescent in through west and central asia into east med?

[Daos777]

True. Do you think it originated here and then went through fertile crescent in through west and central asia into east med?

It split from D in the Middle East and then it back migrated into Africa. In Northern Africa is where E-M78 was born. These E men spread all over Africa taking women away from the A and B Y dna carriers. Then it came to Europe directly from North Africa into Spain and Balkans by Iberomaurusian fisherman. The other much later subclades of E from the Natufian line never made it into Europe. So it’s spread with Neolithic farmers is bullshit.

[Luso]

It split from D in the Middle East and then it back migrated into Africa. In Northern Africa is where E-M78 was born. These E men spread all over Africa taking women away from the A and B Y dna carriers. Then it came to Europe directly from North Africa into Spain and Balkans by Iberomaurusian fisherman. The other much later subclades of E from the Natufian line never made it into Europe. So it’s spread with Neolithic farmers is bullshit.

Sounds legit

[Halgurd]

It split from D in the Middle East and then it back migrated into Africa. In Northern Africa is where E-M78 was born. These E men spread all over Africa taking women away from the A and B Y dna carriers. Then it came to Europe directly from North Africa into Spain and Balkans by Iberomaurusian fisherman. The other much later subclades of E from the Natufian line never made it into Europe. So it’s spread with Neolithic farmers is bullshit.

This is what I'm starting to believe as well. Oldest E-V13 and E-M78 have been found in North West Africa.

[Rocinante]

[Luso]

That is how tan I get in the winter. In the summer this is me:

[Rocinante]

That is how tan I get in the winter. In the summer this is me:

You get tan as an E-V13! Nice man, maybe that´s the reason of why some people ask you if you are truly portuguese, it might be because you are partly albanian or greek!

[Daos777]

Many E-M78 samples among other E clades found in Neolithic French Michelsberg culture. The only Neolithic culture so far that had an abundance of E in it and not just a few outliers like in balkan Neolithic cultures that were predominately G, and I2 (Besides cardial). Yet we think of Balkans as home of E-V13. Could've E-V13 had an east migration from western Europe? The oldest European E-V13 sample is in Spain after all. Anyways here are the sources:

On the map:
https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer...6135984312&z=7

It was from the samples of these two recent French papers:
https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/6/22/eaaz5344
https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/6/22/eaaz5344

Check table 1:
https://www.pnas.org/content/suppl/2...DCSupplemental

[Voskos]

...

https://hamitic.wordpress.com/