Crees que la población de Ecuador es similar a la del Sur de Mexico?

**Quiro_Brianza** · 08-13-2019, 04:29 PM

Originally Posted by RMuller

Melvin Brown has a Jamaican grandfather.I once saw his sister being interviewed she looked typical Mexican mestiza ,im not sure if she was his full blooded sister.

Yes, I remember hearing that, his last name is very Jamaican.

Thanks for the info paisano

**Alvy83** · 08-13-2019, 07:23 PM

Diría que sí, sólo que la población negra es más evidente en Ecuador.

**Erronkari** · 08-13-2019, 09:41 PM

Originally Posted by Quiro_Brianza

Well, I read it on Wikipedia. In Chile demographics

It has to do also with a lot of migration of Haitians, the same happened in Mexico with immigration of Haitians and lately Honduras . Because we are speaking about the population not the percentage of classic peruvian or Ecuadorian for example. So I don’t know why you brought that up.

Oh I see....
Yes, they sound correct, but they are talking about the SSA average in the chilean gene-pool.
Judging those results, the country less SSA influenced should be Bolivia.
Except the very little community of Yungas region they score close to 0 SSA.

**Quiro_Brianza** · 08-13-2019, 09:49 PM

Originally Posted by Erronkari

Oh I see....
Yes, they sound correct, but they are talking about the SSA average in the chilean gene-pool.
Judging those results, the country less SSA influenced should be Bolivia.
Except the very little community of Yungas region they score close to 0 SSA.

If we go deeply and not just saying that native where completely mongoloid, Native American tribes in the South America have more C haplogroups, like mapuches for example have similar haplogroups of Australoids.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/10954617/

I was discussing with a guy who told me about the relation specifically tribes in South America, and he was right. North American tribes are very different, the Austaloid part is stronger in natives of South America, North American tribes normally just have R1 and Q haplogroups related to East Asians and euroasians a bit more.

This is why this is still weird, even native Bolivians can have that influence that can be related to Africans at some small degree, Natives were multi racial.

**Erronkari** · 08-13-2019, 10:54 PM

Originally Posted by Quiro_Brianza

If we go deeply and not just saying that native where completely mongoloid, Native American tribes in the South America have more C haplogroups, like mapuches for example have similar haplogroups of Australoids.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/10954617/

I was discussing with a guy who told me about the relation specifically tribes in South America, and he was right. North American tribes are very different, the Austaloid part is stronger in natives of South America, North American tribes normally just have R1 and Q haplogroups related to East Asians and euroasians a bit more.

This is why this is still weird, even native Bolivians can have that influence that can be related to Africans at some small degree, Natives were multi racial.

Very interesting! I think that Paul Rivet's theory about the multiple settlement of the Americas should be right. So, probably many waves of aboriginal australians, micronesians, melanesians and polinesians came to this Continent.
Of course Behring was the main route for the settlement, but for sure, the others existed too!

**Duffmannn** · 08-13-2019, 11:04 PM

Australian aboriginals didn´t know nothing about navigation.

In any case it woudl have bee polynesians who arrived to South America, which have no relation with australian aboriginals, they are very different races.

**Quiro_Brianza** · 08-13-2019, 11:08 PM

Originally Posted by Erronkari

Very interesting! I think that Paul Rivet's theory about the multiple settlement of the Americas should be right. So, probably many waves of aboriginal australians, micronesians, melanesians and polinesians came to this Continent.
Of course Behring was the main route for the settlement, but for sure, the others existed too!

Yes, well it is still a theory but it makes sense because of the haplogroups specifically mostly with the tribes of the south. For example Mayas from Mexico just score Q and R1 (R1 is similar to Turkish and Indo aryans), they don’t score C in any percent, in the table of haplogroups that i posted in my last comment it shows. So every tribe was different and diverse, it makes sense that the euroasians that came from the Bering strait killed the australoids that were there, but there was a small mix, that is the theory. It could also mean than before crossing the Bering strait it they were already mixed.
This article of nat geo is amazing to understand the relations with caucasians of the natives and why so many score R1:

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/n...eria-genetics/

Greetings

**Quiro_Brianza** · 08-13-2019, 11:14 PM

Originally Posted by Duffmannn

Australian aboriginals didn´t know nothing about navigation.

In any case it woudl have bee polynesians who arrived to South America, which have no relation with australian aboriginals, they are very different races.

This is what I think, it makes more sense. The haplogroups is what makes noise and generates doubts. Polynesians were amazing at navigation in comparison to australoids, this why I think that the mixing could have occurred in Asia, maybe in India. I have seen a lot of theories in respect to natives.