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    Quote Originally Posted by Vojnik View Post
    One drop rule mate.

    Nah you are right, Autosomal would be the deciding factor when it comes to someones genetics. Far more important then Ydna.
    Fun fact. The one drop rule never actually existed in the Third Reich.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Decius View Post
    Fun fact. The one drop rule never actually existed in the Third Reich.
    Nah yeah, more of an American thing when dealing with who's Black and White.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aldaris View Post
    If I was born and raised in China, would I be an ethnic Chinese?
    I was born and raised in Korea. Of course I feel a connection to the people and customs, etc. but I have never said "I'm Korean". I'm not at all to be honest. I am an ethnic Greek.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MinervaItalica View Post
    Boris Johnson has turkish ancestry so probably his genetics are different from the one of an average english person but i bet he identify with Anglo culture and not Turkish.

    However he shouldn't be considered ethnic English because his ancestors aren't from England.
    I agree, that's my point, actually. Cultural and ethnic identity are ultimately two different things, although I think it is kinda awkward when they don't match.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Markos View Post
    I was born and raised in Korea. Of course I feel a connection to the people and customs, etc. but I have never said "I'm Korean". I'm not at all to be honest. I am an ethnic Greek.
    You would have stood out like dogs balls in South Korea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MinervaItalica View Post
    Boris Johnson has turkish ancestry so probably his genetics are different from the one of an average english person but i bet he identify with Anglo culture and not Turkish.

    However he shouldn't be considered ethnic English because his ancestors aren't from England.
    He's only 1/8 Turkish. He probably plots in same place as other english people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aldaris View Post
    I agree, that's my point, actually. Cultural and ethnic identity are ultimately two different things, although I think it is kinda awkward when they don't match.
    Yup. Though to be fair, most people don't necessarily care what their genetics say. For example if you're a Hungarian born and raised in Canada, chances are you'd choose Canada over Hungary in most aspects of your life. But that's swaying from the OP topic a bit.

    Greeks are a good example though. Ethnic Greeks won't all necessarily plot genetically with each other, but it's the shared history, language and customs for thousands of years that make us all the same ethnic group in reality.

    Quote Originally Posted by Vojnik View Post
    You would have stood out like dogs balls in South Korea.
    Fun times, haha.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Markos View Post
    Greeks are a good example though. Ethnic Greeks won't all necessarily plot genetically with each other, but it's the shared history, language and customs for thousands of years that make us all the same ethnic group in reality.
    Greeks may be quite genetically diverse, but not to a degree I would deny them point one in my original post. There are some examples of ethnic groups being almost completely culturally assimilated for a long time, yet they still meet the criteria.

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    Ethnicity is based on common culture, language, history and religion; a shared sense of community basically. Paternal line is also very important in most cases. One of my cousins is 1/4 Serb and 3/4 Croat yet identifies as Serb.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matxe92 View Post
    It's pretty simple. Have a significant genetic distance to any other group.
    Like you can't just claim your "Kashub" or whatever, cause that's just polish. There is basically zero genetic distance between them.
    Huh? Nation is primarily a cultural distinction. And it's not a ''genetic distance'' which determines one's belonging.


    But btw. even if going with your odd understanding og it ... there has to be some pretty specific differences when it comes to the genetics of Kashubians as they're known to carry a genetic mutation responsible for one genetic illness - called LCHAD deficiency that is otherwise extremely rare outside of their group .

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