How would Europe be if south Europe had not existed?

[Phenix]

Probably the most likely scenario; something would need to exist to fill the void that the Romans had filled with the spread of Christianity. A defenceless Europe wouldn't of stood much chance against any of the caliphates of the past

I think it could had lead to a monster cultural uniformed sphere, with Semites assimilating (or merging with) IE, just like the latter did to others before. Blondie & co should think swarthy Romans for barricading the routes on swarthier nations, or else she would have to wear a burqa.

[MinervaItalica]

Would be a complete mess and a complete different world not only Europe. Hard to imagine such a scenario. I cannot say the same about the contrary though.

[Ruggery]

Would be a complete mess and a complete different world not only Europe. Hard to imagine such a scenario. I cannot say the same about the contrary though.

It would be a disaster but I don't think it was as exaggerated as Africa.
They would probably have received much influence from ancient civilizations such as the Egyptians, the Levantines, the Byzantines, instead of the Romans and Greeks.
Our writing would not have been in Latin but in another ancient alphabet of civilization or probably one 100% European.

[Ruggery]

Totally dependent on time period. So, Alexander's attempt to make Persians and Greeks race mix, or Roman conquering through marriage pre Empire, or Mongol conquest of all Eurasia, or Proto-Indo-European conquest of all Eurasia never existed?

Of course, but the situation would probably have been different.

[sean]

Blondie & co should thank swarthy Romans for barricading the routes on swarthier nations, or else she would have to wear a burqa.

What a brainlet take on history. The pagan Romans considered the Semite, Egyptian, Berber pagans as worshipping the same gods under different names.

So they gave them citizenship and allowed them to immigrate to Europe so much that to this day the Roman province had large amounts of non-European blood. They promoted race mixing between the different peoples in their empire and genocided white Gauls.

[Phenix]

What a brainlet take on history. The pagan Romans considered the Semite, Egyptian, Berber pagans as worshipping the same gods under different names.

So they gave them citizenship and allowed them to immigrate to Europe so much that to this day the Roman province has large amounts of non-European blood. They promoted race mixing between the different peoples in their empire and genocided white Gauls.

[XenophobicPrussian]

I think it could had lead to a monster cultural uniformed sphere, with Semites assimilating (or merging with) IE, just like the latter did to others before. Blondie & co should think swarthy Romans for barricading the routes on swarthier nations, or else she would have to wear a burqa.

Mmhmm, Romans didn't conquer Germania, instead the opposite happened, and Arabs are gunna conquer N Europe now, makes sense.

If anything, you have North/Central Europeans and the French to thank for Italians not having to wear the Burka, from the French stopping the Moors, Austrians stopping the Turks and the Normans conquering Sicily. Too bad no one could help the Greeks completely getting wiped out, N Euro Crusaders tried but just sacked the Greek capital instead because they probably realized they were fighting for Europeans who look the exact same as the Turkish invaders. Romans/Greeks didn't keep anyone out, they lost.

As for Turkic/Hun/Mongol invasions from the east, the Romans nor Greeks didn't do anything to keep them at bay except get their asses handed to them and give the steppe invaders tribute. NW Europe(eastern Europe too eventually after Russia had a population boom) kept out steppe invaders solely by themselves before Roman influence and Christianity had even reached them(whether or not it was via threat/battle or steppe people had no interest in Germanic land or spoils, it still didn't happen). I mean, Greece and the Balkans are literally only independent right now because of the UK, France, Germany and Russia. What a stupid thing to say.

A far better question is what the world would be like without NW Europe. Probably like rural Albania. East Asians, northern Iberians and N. Italians(well, N. Italians may've not existed because no Germanic or Celtic admixture theoretically) are probably smart enough to accomplish inventing the industrial revolution and modern technology, but East Asians don't have enough testosterone/drive to, and I dunno, Iberians and N. Italians weren't doing much if anything from 1700 to the modern day and couldn't read/write as a majority before the 1900s, hard to believe modern advancements(which take the most intelligence and are the most important, of course) wouldn't atleast be delayed by a really long time. Keep being proud of breeding like rabbits earlier than us though.

[Phenix]

Mmhmm, Romans didn't conquer Germania, instead the opposite happened, and Arabs are gunna conquer N Europe now.

If anything, you have North/Central Europeans and the French to thank for Italians not having to wear the Burka, from the French stopping the Moors, Austrians stopping the Turks and the Normans conquering Sicily. Too bad no one could help the Greeks completely getting wiped out, N Euro Crusaders tried but just sacked the Greek capital instead because they probably realized they were fighting for Europeans who look the exact same as the Turkish invaders. Romans/Greeks didn't keep anyone out, they lost.

As for Turkic/Hun/Mongol invasions from the east, the Romans nor Greeks didn't do anything to keep them at bay except get their asses handed to them and give the steppe invaders tribute. NW Europe(eastern Europe too eventually after Russia had a population boom) kept out steppe invaders solely by themselves before Roman influence and Christianity had even reached them(whether or not it was via threat/battle or steppe people had no interest in Germanic land or spoils, it still didn't happen).

A far better question is what the world would be like without NW Europe. Probably like rural Albania. East Asians, northern Iberians and N. Italians(well, N. Italians may've not existed because no Germanic or Celtic admixture theoretically) are probably smart enough to accomplish inventing the industrial revolution and modern technology, but East Asians don't have enough testosterone/drive to, and I dunno, Iberians and N. Italians weren't doing much if anything from 1700 to the modern day, hard to believe modern advancements(which take the most intelligence and are the most important, of course) wouldn't atleast be delayed by a really long time.

I was not alluding on Arab conquests.

[XenophobicPrussian]

I was not alluding on Arab conquests.

If you meant Islam or another semetic Religion would've replaced Christianity as the driving cultural force and would've as well overtaken Paganism, I mean, sure, but Europeans would just modernize it like they did with Christianity. Even Catholicism itself was already different from the original Middle-Eastern Christianity, Romans put their own spin on it, then you have further modernization in Protestantism, Christianity after the Enlightenment and the modern situation. Who cares. Pretty sure the Bible says women should cover up as well. Both are already semetic Religions in the first place.

[Peterski]

If South Europe never existed, Anatolian Farmers would probably never be able to colonize Europe, because there would be no land bridge from Anatolia to Europe.

If Bulgaria and Greece were under water, that is.