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Thread: How would Europe be if south Europe had not existed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruggery View Post

    Would Europe be the dominant continent as it is today?
    I don't do this thread to attack the Germanics or other Europeans.
    In my opinion, not Europe would not be different from other continents such as Asia, it would no longer be dominant but not so weak, probably the scientific revolutions and cultures would have changed places.
    The discovery of America would have taken much more
    In addition there would be much less white people, therefore Europe would be more depopulated compared to other continents.
    What would be your opinion?
    Gaulish would be the dominant language

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruggery View Post
    If southern Europe had not existed, the Roman Empire would not have existed either, so the Germanics would have had to develop from 0 as the Vikings used to do it, I also think that if Russia had not existed Europe would be better and that communism would not have existed either .
    Communism is a Western invention, an attempt to destroy Russian Christianity and replace it with communism, which in fact also has all the features of religion. The bourgeois Christian idea contradicts the soul of a Russian person, therefore communism was greeted with enthusiasm (especially by youth).
    For example, the German Social Democratic Party is also based on the principles of Marxism (Stalinism is no longer), but they don’t have a trace of sacrifice, energy, or enthusiasm of the Russian Communists. Russian communism began to pose a threat to the Western elites, and through external and internal struggle, the young Soviet state was destroyed.
    I do not idealize communism, its main danger is a mixture of lies and truth. The problem is that modern (obsolete) capitalism (globalism) is not a complete replacement for the Soviet system, and a return to the old (up to the 20th century) ideals is impossible.

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    The world would likely be led by Afro-Asiatic civilizations and Northern Europeans would be living in huts until now, pretty much like Africans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crimean View Post
    Communism is a Western invention, an attempt to destroy Russian Christianity and replace it with communism, which in fact also has all the features of religion. The bourgeois Christian idea contradicts the soul of a Russian person, therefore communism was greeted with enthusiasm (especially by youth).
    For example, the German Social Democratic Party is also based on the principles of Marxism (Stalinism is no longer), but they don’t have a trace of sacrifice, energy, or enthusiasm of the Russian Communists. Russian communism began to pose a threat to the Western elites, and through external and internal struggle, the young Soviet state was destroyed.
    I do not idealize communism, its main danger is a mixture of lies and truth. The problem is that modern (obsolete) capitalism (globalism) is not a complete replacement for the Soviet system, and a return to the old (up to the 20th century) ideals is impossible.
    So what was the Soviet Union based on?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phenix View Post
    Blondie & co should think swarthy Romans for barricading the routes on swarthier nations, or else she would have to wear a burqa.
    Austria and Hungary stopped the jihadist ottomans just saying...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blondie View Post
    Austria and Hungary stopped the jihadist ottomans just saying...
    I was not hinting on islamic conquests.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blondie View Post
    Austria and Hungary stopped the jihadist ottomans just saying...
    Thanks for that. Also props to the Franks for keeping the invaders out.
    "Wearing feelings on our faces while our faces took a rest
    We walked across the fields to see the children of the West
    But we saw a host of dark skinned warriors
    Standing still below the ground,
    Waiting for battle!" (Supper’s Ready, Genesis)

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    Quote Originally Posted by XenophobicPrussian View Post
    If you meant Islam or another semetic Religion would've replaced Christianity as the driving cultural force and would've as well overtaken Paganism, I mean, sure, but Europeans would just modernize it like they did with Christianity. Even Catholicism itself was already different from the original Middle-Eastern Christianity, Romans put their own spin on it, then you have further modernization in Protestantism, Christianity after the Enlightenment and the modern situation. Who cares. Pretty sure the Bible says women should cover up as well. Both are already semetic Religions in the first place.
    You cannot change/reformed islam because the muslims are insist to original Quran, that's why most of them live on medieval level until the present day. If Europe had accepted islam instead of christianity that Europe would be a third world shithole today, so i'm very happy that Europe is christian.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruggery View Post
    So what was the Soviet Union based on?
    Those ideas were an offshoot from the 18th-century enlightenment, not something out of the Russian intelligentsia, the Russian Empire would've still stood had it not been for this foreign influence. Communism is not something Russians and Slavs are genetically predisposed to. Marx and Engels weren't really active there, more so in the western half of the continent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by billErobreren View Post
    Those ideas were an offshoot from the 18th-century enlightenment, not something out of the Russian intelligentsia, the Russian Empire would've still stood had it not been for this foreign influence. Communism is not something Russians and Slavs are genetically predisposed to. Marx and Engels weren't really active there, more so in the western half of the continent.
    So is the theory that communism was invented by the Germans true?

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