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Thread: Kecskemét, a hungarian city with non hungarian identity & peoples

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    Quote Originally Posted by UltimatePagan View Post
    Sekkmer = pale, blonde blue eyed
    Benyzero = pale, brown hair, blue eyes
    Oszkar = maybe a little bit olive skin, black hair, blue eyes
    Magicial = pale, blue eyes, brown hair
    Lehel was pale, blue eyed with very light brown hair
    What's your point? Only Sekkmer is blond in your list but he's a german (according to Blondie). Oszkar is half british.
    Blonde is feminine spelling btw.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Feiichy View Post
    Yes, exactly
    For sure they look different from Transdanubians, in sense they looked more eastern european/slavic.

    But they did not seem any darker. Difference is in Transdanubia true Slavic looking people are not overly common, they really look like mix with Germans.

    People in Keckemet were lighter than Szekely.

    Szekely had similar pigmentation like Dalmatian Croats.
    You should take everything Stears say with a pinch of salt, especially when he talks about hungarian phenotypes.

    According to him székely people who attend székely patriotic/nationalist meetings holding székely flag are gypsies. He called this guy gypsy: 7.JPG (notice the székely flag he's holding)
    from this video https://index.indavideo.hu/video/Ugy...a_helyzetrol_1

    He also said Ildikó Keresztes is gypsy(famous székely personality/singer living in Hungary). When I asked him why he think she's gypsy, he gave link to an article as a "proof" for his statement. The article didn't state anything about Ildikó's origin. That is completely irrational and ridiculous behavior.

    He calls everyone who doesn't look what he considers "ideal hungarian look" gypsy, jewish, cuman, jassic, slovak etc even when he has no evidence to support his statements. He always found a way to justify darker looking hungarians. I don't understand why he's in denial about his own people

    He also used to say NE hungarians are swarthy because they have slovak ancestors and accorrding to him slovaks are darker than hungarians. Yet this study found some parts of NE Hungary are the lightest haired regions in Hungary (lighter than Zala and Somogy in western Hungary) https://i.postimg.cc/L5nM4Q8j/Hungar...-by-region.png (posted by supercomputer)

    Last time he registered here (his account got banned quickly), he made a thread about "Cuman-hungarians" and some of the "Cumans" he posted turned out to be people from Western Hungary.

    He often made outlandish statements or even lied blatantly, which I found really annoying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Universe View Post
    It's impossible that red hair is common. According to this map only 1-2% of hungarians are red haired. And hungarians aren't more ginger than other "easterners". Only balkanics are less ginger.
    I don't think blond hair is common among hungarian men. Light brown may be.
    Blond hair is common in Budapest men, I would estimate 30% are light and dirty blond which is a lot.

    I see lot of light blond guys too.

    Keep in mind many NW Europeans visit, live, work or study in Budapest so not all blonds I see are native.

    But many are indeed Hungarians.

    Regarding red i find it common i see red haried individuals (2-5) every day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Universe View Post
    You should take everything Stears say with a pinch of salt, especially when he talks about hungarian phenotypes.

    According to him székely people who attend székely patriotic/nationalist meetings holding székely flag are gypsies. He called this guy gypsy: 7.JPG (notice the székely flag he's holding)
    from this video https://index.indavideo.hu/video/Ugy...a_helyzetrol_1

    He also said Ildikó Keresztes is gypsy(famous székely personality/singer living in Hungary). When I asked him why he think she's gypsy, he gave link to an article as a "proof" for his statement. The article didn't state anything about Ildikó's origin. That is completely irrational and ridiculous behavior.

    He calls everyone who doesn't look what he considers "ideal hungarian look" gypsy, jewish, cuman, jassic, slovak etc even when he has no evidence to support his statements. He always found a way to justify darker looking hungarians. I don't understand why he's in denial about his own people

    He also used to say NE hungarians are swarthy because they have slovak ancestors and accorrding to him slovaks are darker than hungarians. Yet this study found some parts of NE Hungary are the lightest haired regions in Hungary (lighter than Zala and Somogy in western Hungary) https://i.postimg.cc/L5nM4Q8j/Hungar...-by-region.png (posted by supercomputer)

    Last time he registered here (his account got banned quickly), he made a thread about "Cuman-hungarians" and some of the "Cumans" he posted turned out to be people from Western Hungary.

    He often made outlandish statements or even lied blatantly, which I found really annoying.
    He often tell me some people we see on streets or in shops are Gypsies, and I would never guess. Many look Pontid or similar, not Indid or mena.

    I tought he is trolling but I am not sure anymore. There seems to be more Hungarian-Gypsy mixes with fairly neutral brunet European look that people like to admit.

    He say Hungarians often confuse Balkanite phenotypes (like my ex boyfriend who is Pontid) for Gypsies. Idk what to think about that. Bisagul who was troll claimed similar things.

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    Beutifull peapole i could pass among them. Their pure genes has not been destroyed by light hair, light eyed german genes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Feiichy View Post
    He often tell me some people we see on streets or in shops are Gypsies, and I would never guess. Many look Pontid or similar, not Indid or mena.

    I tought he is trolling but I am not sure anymore. There seems to be more Hungarian-Gypsy mixes with fairly neutral brunet European look that people like to admit.

    He say Hungarians often confuse Balkanite phenotypes (like my ex boyfriend who is Pontid) for Gypsies. Idk what to think about that. Bisagul who was troll claimed similar things.
    Bisagul had dark eyes and hair himself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pansarkamrat View Post
    Bisagul had dark eyes and hair himself.
    How ironic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Feiichy View Post
    He often tell me some people we see on streets or in shops are Gypsies, and I would never guess. Many look Pontid or similar, not Indid or mena.

    I tought he is trolling but I am not sure anymore. There seems to be more Hungarian-Gypsy mixes with fairly neutral brunet European look that people like to admit.

    He say Hungarians often confuse Balkanite phenotypes (like my ex boyfriend who is Pontid) for Gypsies. Idk what to think about that. Bisagul who was troll claimed similar things.
    In Hungary many gypsies (or maybe most gypsies) are mixed with hungarians. These mixed gypsies are usually seen as gypsies by hungarians and they usually identify as such too. So many gypsies have look that can pass in Europe. Sometimes gypsies can pass for magyar or vice versa.

    He say Hungarians often confuse Balkanite phenotypes (like my ex boyfriend who is Pontid) for Gypsies. Idk what to think about that. Bisagul who was troll claimed similar things.
    He's right. Some people here think mediterranean/wog looking hungarians are have gypsy origin/are mixed with gypsies, but most hungarians don't think that in my experience. My aunt(father's sister) was taken for gypsy when she was younger a few times, if I posted her here people would probably say she looks romanian or bulgarian. You'r ex wouldn't be seen as gypsy in Hungary, if I remember him correctly.


    actor Csányi Sándor is a half gypsy (he said his father is gypsy and his mother is magyar). He could pass as a mediterranean looking hungarian.


    But this is besides the point. He labeled lots of people that are really hungarian as non-hungarian. He probably knew himself Keresztes Ildikó isn't gypsy but he was ashamed to admit it or something. His behavior was just dishonest. He also said stuff like hungarian from Alföld/Miskolc/Pécs/Szeged etc. aren't real hungarians and stuff. I've never met a hungarian who shared those opinions. Everytime there was a "swarthy" hungarian posted he made up stories about jewish ancestry and what not. You know it well. A lot of his posts were insult to intelligence. There are plenty of hungarians with mediterranean/swarthy look without gypsy/jew/neo-cuman(an ethnicity that he made up to justfify swarthy hungarians, no one in hungary identify as such on the census)/ etc ancestry. If one trusted his posts then he'd think ethnic hungarians look no different than North Germans.
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    It is strange because Stears is fully southern Hungarian from both parents. And he is genetically closer to Moldovans, Croats and Bosnians than to Germans, Czechs or Auastrians.

    But he is right his coloring is not considered light in Hungary. He is about average, except hazel eyes are more common than his blueish probably.

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    Hungarians have more mediterranean ancestry comapred to Czechs or Slovaks so no wonder they have more wog types like Gabor Vona. He doesnt look foreign to me.

    You are close to us genetically, and we are more dark than light. But since Hungarians generally look different than Croats I concluded Hungarian average is very close to us only because probably all Hungarians are included (Szekely, Csango, etc).

    My intuitive guess is that if we look only at Hungarians from Hungary they will be closest to Slovenians and Slovaks, not really to Croats. Because you have much more German, much less Balkan and bit less Slavic ancestry.

    We simply are different looking. Dark and light types both usually. So this genetical similarity may be superficial thing.

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