Do you consider Jewish as Europeans?

[Dawnbringer]

Any Jew identifying himself as a Jew over whatever nation he lives in, no. So the majority of Jews are not, but for example the great composer Mendelssohn who completely rejected any kind of Jewish identity or culture and became a Christian was obviously a European composer.

Genetically, Ashkenazi Jews are as European as South Italians and Greek Islanders and also cluster very close to ancient Greek and Roman samples we have and relatively distant from any Middle eastern population.

So you could say that Ashkenazi Jews are peripherally European. I think that’s a good description.

[Smeagol]

So you could say that Ashkenazi Jews are peripherally European. I think that’s a good description.

Genetically yes.

[Lazio]

Genetically, Ashkenazi Jews are as European as South Italians and Greek Islanders and also cluster very close to ancient Greek and Roman samples we have and relatively distant from any Middle eastern population.

Here you go again.

[Smeagol]

Here you go again.

Sorry if it bothers you, but it's true.

[Phenix]

People who think that Jews can fit culturally in Europe are materialistic individuals that are as good as blind.

It's not about personal view, Jews are de facto incorporated in the new Europe.

[MinervaItalica]

Here you go again.

Unfortunately that is an agenda here. I speak for experience. Let them believe it.

[Kamal900]

No, they're not. For as long as they identify themselves as Jewish then they shouldn't be treated any differently from other middle eastern ethnic groups.

[Smeagol]

Unfortunately that is an agenda here. I speak for experience. Let them believe it.

It's really not a matter of belief. It's just a genetic fact that bothers you.

[xtal]

Only Ashkenazim and Sephardics

[MinervaItalica]

It's really not a matter of belief. It's just a genetic fact that bothers you.

You're naive if you think that random maps picked around the web and perhaps edited by biased people bother me. This is why i let people believe it.

No one cares of genetics outside this forum and in Europe, perhaps in America since you don't have an identity.

I prefer history and culture which are the things that shape a population and tells what they are. Genetics are a bunch of manipulable numbers, one day they claim one thing and the day later they already claim the contrary.