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    Quote Originally Posted by Catarinense1998 View Post
    In far right's regimes, the police suits the interests of the ruling party. The same about the schools.
    Is it not the same with leftist government like soviet union anyway?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Catarinense1998 View Post
    "I want to privatise all schools and hospitals, and possibly even the army and the police" - it is not - necessarily - a right wing thing. I only do see liberals, conservatives (classic ones based on Edmund Burke), Neocons (shit) and neoliberals (the worst one) caring about this privatise thing. Far-Righters like true fascists for example, were strongly pro labor rights. One of the biggest influence in fascism was the strong sindicalism in Italy. Mussolini himself said that the capitalism is not perfect and it need to be controled by the state. Far Righters (considering the nazis, fascists) will never leave the army out of the government's hands - it is crazy. The same to police. In far right's regimes, the police suits the interests of the ruling party. The same about the schools.
    In my expericence, most people with fascist-like ideas in Brazil dont iddentify themselves with neither right nor left wing

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daco Celtic View Post
    2 because 1 can conceivably be a libertarian idea. Privatization transcends the right-wing
    Yea privatization isn't really a mainstream conservative idea.

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    The blue one.

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    Both.

    Right wing on which axis? Financial or social? You can be fiscally right and socially left aka libertarian or you can be socially right and fiscally left aka national socialist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jolsonaro View Post
    The idea of a leftist Anarchism is a joke. If not even the worst dictators were capable of imposing socialism, how would people do it voluntary? People are naturaly inclined to egoism.
    Yes and no. Kibbutzim and cooperatives are types of voluntary socialism, though I agree with you insofar as only a minority of people are appealed to such things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daos777 View Post
    Both.

    Right wing on which axis? Financial or social? You can be fiscally right and socially left aka libertarian or you can be socially right and fiscally left aka national socialist.
    In other words, it is often confused and possibly even meaningless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daco Celtic View Post
    2 because 1 can conceivably be a libertarian idea. Privatization transcends the right-wing
    No, it does not. Privatization is a righ wing thing. The less government, the more righ wing.
    The more state, the more left wing.

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    1, obviously. Privatization and a marked-oriented society are right-wing ideals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smaug View Post
    1, obviously. Privatization and a marked-oriented society are right-wing ideals.
    Do you on the whole support such ideals?

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