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    Quote Originally Posted by Adamastor View Post
    Even more White.

    People usually say neolithic farmers brought ''light skin'' to Europe, but they were probably Northern South Asian/Middle Eastern in pigmentation. True European white skin can develop naturally in Europe and HGs likely would develop it anyway but with less menainsh influence.
    Russian steppe invaders brought really pale skin, not HGs

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daco Celtic View Post
    The food would suck.
    Why is that?

    Quote Originally Posted by michal3141 View Post
    Europeans would look like Balts and Finns but even more pure blond forms.
    They have high ANE and even siberian admixture. I think Many western Euros would look like me, Robust North Atlantid ish, black haired and blue eyed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bellbeaking View Post
    Why is that?
    I don't believe Mama Pantone's famous pasta would exist without the contributions of the neolithic farmers and their grains.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daco Celtic View Post
    I don't believe Mama Pantone's famous pasta would exist without the contributions of the neolithic farmers and their grains.
    Indo Europeans would bring farming though. They might make even better food. But maybe NOT.
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    Saying the true, Neolithics never invaded Europe, they just transfered their technologies and knowledges, but their genetical impact is very limited in Europe.

    https://www.quora.com/How-much-did-t...e-European-DNA

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sacrificed Ram View Post
    Saying the true, Neolithics never invaded Europe, they just transfered their technologies and knowledges, but their genetical impact is very limited in Europe.

    https://www.quora.com/How-much-did-t...e-European-DNA
    Nah dude not sure who told you this, maybe you are reading outdated info, but the mass migration of early neolithic farmers to Europe is a seminal part of European genetic history. The did indeed overturn of the majority of mesolithic DNA. This is not something any geneticist contests right now.
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    The European diet would be super high in protein. Northern Europeans would be healthier, aside from the alcoholism, which would be far worse than it is now, maybe even at Amerindian levels. Europeans would be taller, stronger, fitter, basically supermen. Red hair would be far more common across the continent. Lifestyle would be less civilised, but more vigorous. Farming would have been introduced, but it might still be rudimentary outside of Southern Europe where soils are more fitting. The centre of European civilisation would probably be in the east. Maybe Western Europe would have been colonised by North Africans starting in Iberia. Maybe Europeans would have have been instead a 3 way mixture of PIE/HG/North African. The WHG component in Europeans would probably be a lot higher.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bellbeaking View Post
    Nah dude not sure who told you this, maybe you are reading outdated info, but the mass migration of early neolithic farmers to Europe is a seminal part of European genetic history. The did indeed overturn of the majority of mesolithic DNA. This is not something any geneticist contests right now.
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    The European diet would be super high in protein. Northern Europeans would be healthier, aside from the alcoholism, which would be far worse than it is now, maybe even at Amerindian levels. Europeans would be taller, stronger, fitter, basically supermen. Red hair would be far more common across the continent. Lifestyle would be less civilised, but more vigorous. Farming would have been introduced, but it might still be rudimentary outside of Southern Europe where soils are more fitting. The centre of European civilisation would probably be in the east. Maybe Western Europe would have been colonised by North Africans starting in Iberia. Maybe Europeans would have have been instead a 3 way mixture of PIE/HG/North African. The WHG component in Europeans would probably be a lot higher.
    Informative posts guys but I think the early farmers were more populous than the WHG who probably led a more unstable nomadic lifestyle as opposed to the early farmers that built settlements/villages where people were actually able to start families/clans.

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    Are the Neolithic Farmers guilty of destroying Europe's gluten-free lifestyle? Did carbs kill off the WHGs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daco Celtic View Post
    Are the Neolithic Farmers guilty of destroying Europe's gluten-free lifestyle? Did carbs kill off the WHGs?
    Yes. The WHGs were probably ripped with six pack abs

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