Azeri from Kars(Eastern Turkey) Gedmatch results

[MustafaTekin]

The person i'm referring to is L1b

[altaic]

I do have Azeri component on my top 5 in general. My mum had West Azerbaijan region on her 23andme results. She said to me earlier that my grandfather roots are coming from Dagestan.
Do you guys think if there are any relations? Or it is just an Iranian component that is common in Turkey.

See my results summary below

MDLP K23b (4.75% Mongoloid)

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Turk_Adana_ @ 3.740872
2 Turk_Kayseri_ @ 5.773921
3 Georgian_Jew_ @ 6.137163
4 Turk_ @ 6.764850
5 Kurd_North_ @ 6.851636
6 Uzbekistani_Jew_ @ 7.799001
7 Azeri_ @ 7.967055
8 Assyrian_Iraqi_ @ 8.448670
9 Iraqi_Chaldean_ @ 8.526645
10 Uzbek_Tashkent_ @ 8.707684
11 Kurd_South_ @ 9.371252
12 Kurd_Jew_ @ 9.979659
13 Kurd_East_ @ 10.324146
14 Turk_Istanbul_ @ 10.525805
15 Iraqi_Mandean_ @ 10.528445
16 Jew_Tat_ @ 10.677768
17 Kurd_ @ 10.705672
18 Iranian_Jew_ @ 10.820497
19 Baku_WGA_ @ 11.195860
20 Turk_Aydin_ @ 11.585715

2 72.1% Turk_Adana ( ) + 27.9% Kurd_North ( ) @ 2.22
4 81.3% Turk_Adana ( ) + 18.7% Kurd_East ( ) @ 2.38
5 75.1% Turk_Kayseri ( ) + 24.9% Iranian ( ) @ 2.38
9 84.6% Turk_Adana ( ) + 15.4% Baku_WGA ( ) @ 2.5
11 82.5% Turk_Adana ( ) + 17.5% Kurd ( ) @ 2.51
12 82.7% Turk_Adana ( ) + 17.3% Kurd_South ( ) @ 2.54
14 77.8% Turk_Adana ( ) + 22.2% Azeri ( ) @ 2.58

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Baku_WGA_ +25% Italian_Abruzzo_ +25% Kurd_Jew_ @ 2.467376
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HarappaWorld
Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 turkish (harappa) 4.1
2 turk-kayseri (hodoglugil) 5.58
3 turk-istanbul (hodoglugil) 6.02
4 turk (behar) 6.22
5 azeri (harappa) 6.3
6 armenian (harappa) 7.93
7 kurd (harappa) 8.78
8 uzbekistan-jew (behar) 9.48
9 kurd (yunusbayev) 9.7
10 iranian (harappa) 10.05
11 turk-aydin (hodoglugil) 10.81
12 kurd (xing) 11.09
13 iranian (behar) 11.48
14 iraqi-arab (harappa) 12.79
15 assyrian (harappa) 13.36
16 kumyk (yunusbayev) 13.69
17 georgia-jew (behar) 14.02
18 azerbaijan-jew (behar) 14.11
19 lebanese-muslim (haber) 14.13
20 iraqi-mandaean (harappa) 14.63
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PuntDNAL K13 (%4.76 Mongoloid)

# Population (source) Distance
1 Azerbaijan_Azeri 4.47
2 Turkish_Kayseri 4.84
3 Turkish 5.6
4 Kurdish 8.21
5 Abkhasian 8.33
6 Turkish_Aydin 9.24
7 Ossetian 9.32
8 Dagestan_Azeri 9.64
9 Iranian 10.43
10 Balkar 10.53
11 Armenian 10.65
12 Adygei 11.24
13 Assyrian 11.5
14 Lebanese_Druze 12.21
15 Syrian 12.34
16 Lebanese_Muslim 12.56
17 Turkish_Trabzon 12.59
18 Kumyk 12.78
19 Lebanese_Christian 14.08
20 Cypriot 14.78

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 60.7% Turkish + 39.3% Kurdish @ 2.33
2 83.6% Azerbaijan_Azeri + 16.4% Ashkenazy_Jew @ 2.59
3 84.2% Azerbaijan_Azeri + 15.8% Italian_Sicilian @ 2.67
4 84.6% Azerbaijan_Azeri + 15.4% Greek_Central @ 2.68
5 86.4% Azerbaijan_Azeri + 13.6% Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.72
6 67.3% Turkish + 32.7% Iranian @ 2.75
7 91.5% Azerbaijan_Azeri + 8.5% Puerto_Rican @ 2.77
8 84.3% Azerbaijan_Azeri + 15.7% Sephardic_Jew @ 2.79
9 87.8% Azerbaijan_Azeri + 12.2% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.82
10 88.1% Azerbaijan_Azeri + 11.9% Albanian @ 2.84
11 89.2% Azerbaijan_Azeri + 10.8% Italian_Tuscan @ 2.84
12 58.4% Azerbaijan_Azeri + 41.6% Turkish @ 2.86
13 92.3% Azerbaijan_Azeri + 7.7% Spaniard @ 2.87
14 88.6% Azerbaijan_Azeri + 11.4% Kosovar @ 2.91
15 91.1% Azerbaijan_Azeri + 8.9% Italian_Bergamo @ 2.92
16 83.1% Kurdish + 16.9% Puerto_Rican @ 2.93
17 93.7% Azerbaijan_Azeri + 6.3% French_Basque @ 2.99
18 90.2% Azerbaijan_Azeri + 9.8% Macedonian @ 2.99
19 89.9% Azerbaijan_Azeri + 10.1% Bulgarian @ 3
20 62.3% Turkish + 37.7% Abkhasian @ 3.06

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Azerbaijan_Azeri +25% Iranian +25% Italian_Sicilian @ 2.193706
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Eurogenes K13
# Population & Distance
1 Azeri 6.51
2 Turkish 6.96
3 Georgian_Jewish 8.92
4 Kurdish 9.24
5 Iranian 9.99
6 Armenian 10.17
7 Assyrian 10.5
8 Iranian_Jewish 13.18
9 Kurdish_Jewish 13.7
10 Kumyk 14.91
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Gedrosia K6 (This is also an interesting calculation as Thracian shared earlier. I guess I fit the best here physically , I was told I look Adygei, Chechen, Kumyk and Dagestani area people....)
# Population (source) Distance
1 Adygei 4.39
2 Chechen 5.28
3 Kumyk 5.62
4 Azeri 6.47
5 Iran_N_WC1 6.86
6 Armenia_ChL 6.86
7 Lezgin 7.07
8 Georgian 7.36
9 Iranian 7.63
10 Turkish 7.68
11 Balkar 7.95
12 Iran_recent 7.98
13 Kurd_C 8.76
14 Assyrian 9.19
15 Jew_Iranian 10.15
16 Jew_iraqi 10.71
17 Kurd_F 10.85
18 Druze 11.02
19 Syrian 11.25
20 Iranian_Mazandarani 11.51

[Kyp]

I do have Azeri component on my top 5 in general. My mum had West Azerbaijan region on her 23andme results. She said to me earlier that my grandfather roots are coming from Dagestan.
Do you guys think if there are any relations? Or it is just an Iranian component that is common in Turkey.

See my results summary below

MDLP K23b (4.75% Mongoloid)

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Turk_Adana ( ) 3.26
2 Kurd_North ( ) 6.56
3 Turk_Kayseri ( ) 6.8
4 Turk ( ) 6.97
5 Iraqi_Chaldean ( ) 7.24
6 Azeri ( ) 7.4
7 Georgian_Jew ( ) 8.24
8 Uzbekistani_Jew ( ) 8.28
9 Assyrian_Iraqi ( ) 8.7
10 Iraqi_Mandean ( ) 8.82
11 Turk_Istanbul ( ) 8.94
12 Uzbek_Tashkent ( ) 8.94
13 Kurd_Jew ( ) 9.58
14 Turk_Aydin ( ) 9.85
15 Kurd_East ( ) 10
16 Kurd_South ( ) 10.07
17 Kurd ( ) 10.13
18 Iranian_Jew ( ) 10.88
19 Baku_WGA ( ) 11.69
20 Turk_Balikesir ( ) 11.86

2 72.1% Turk_Adana ( ) + 27.9% Kurd_North ( ) @ 2.22
4 81.3% Turk_Adana ( ) + 18.7% Kurd_East ( ) @ 2.38
5 75.1% Turk_Kayseri ( ) + 24.9% Iranian ( ) @ 2.38
9 84.6% Turk_Adana ( ) + 15.4% Baku_WGA ( ) @ 2.5
11 82.5% Turk_Adana ( ) + 17.5% Kurd ( ) @ 2.51
12 82.7% Turk_Adana ( ) + 17.3% Kurd_South ( ) @ 2.54
14 77.8% Turk_Adana ( ) + 22.2% Azeri ( ) @ 2.58

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Baku_WGA_ +25% Italian_Abruzzo_ +25% Kurd_Jew_ @ 2.467376
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HarappaWorld
Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 turkish (harappa) 4.1
2 turk-kayseri (hodoglugil) 5.58
3 turk-istanbul (hodoglugil) 6.02
4 turk (behar) 6.22
5 azeri (harappa) 6.3
6 armenian (harappa) 7.93
7 kurd (harappa) 8.78
8 uzbekistan-jew (behar) 9.48
9 kurd (yunusbayev) 9.7
10 iranian (harappa) 10.05
11 turk-aydin (hodoglugil) 10.81
12 kurd (xing) 11.09
13 iranian (behar) 11.48
14 iraqi-arab (harappa) 12.79
15 assyrian (harappa) 13.36
16 kumyk (yunusbayev) 13.69
17 georgia-jew (behar) 14.02
18 azerbaijan-jew (behar) 14.11
19 lebanese-muslim (haber) 14.13
20 iraqi-mandaean (harappa) 14.63
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PuntDNAL K13 (%4.76 Mongoloid)

# Population (source) Distance
1 Azerbaijan_Azeri 4.47
2 Turkish_Kayseri 4.84
3 Turkish 5.6
4 Kurdish 8.21
5 Abkhasian 8.33
6 Turkish_Aydin 9.24
7 Ossetian 9.32
8 Dagestan_Azeri 9.64
9 Iranian 10.43
10 Balkar 10.53
11 Armenian 10.65
12 Adygei 11.24
13 Assyrian 11.5
14 Lebanese_Druze 12.21
15 Syrian 12.34
16 Lebanese_Muslim 12.56
17 Turkish_Trabzon 12.59
18 Kumyk 12.78
19 Lebanese_Christian 14.08
20 Cypriot 14.78

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 60.7% Turkish + 39.3% Kurdish @ 2.33
2 83.6% Azerbaijan_Azeri + 16.4% Ashkenazy_Jew @ 2.59
3 84.2% Azerbaijan_Azeri + 15.8% Italian_Sicilian @ 2.67
4 84.6% Azerbaijan_Azeri + 15.4% Greek_Central @ 2.68
5 86.4% Azerbaijan_Azeri + 13.6% Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.72
6 67.3% Turkish + 32.7% Iranian @ 2.75
7 91.5% Azerbaijan_Azeri + 8.5% Puerto_Rican @ 2.77
8 84.3% Azerbaijan_Azeri + 15.7% Sephardic_Jew @ 2.79
9 87.8% Azerbaijan_Azeri + 12.2% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.82
10 88.1% Azerbaijan_Azeri + 11.9% Albanian @ 2.84
11 89.2% Azerbaijan_Azeri + 10.8% Italian_Tuscan @ 2.84
12 58.4% Azerbaijan_Azeri + 41.6% Turkish @ 2.86
13 92.3% Azerbaijan_Azeri + 7.7% Spaniard @ 2.87
14 88.6% Azerbaijan_Azeri + 11.4% Kosovar @ 2.91
15 91.1% Azerbaijan_Azeri + 8.9% Italian_Bergamo @ 2.92
16 83.1% Kurdish + 16.9% Puerto_Rican @ 2.93
17 93.7% Azerbaijan_Azeri + 6.3% French_Basque @ 2.99
18 90.2% Azerbaijan_Azeri + 9.8% Macedonian @ 2.99
19 89.9% Azerbaijan_Azeri + 10.1% Bulgarian @ 3
20 62.3% Turkish + 37.7% Abkhasian @ 3.06

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Azerbaijan_Azeri +25% Iranian +25% Italian_Sicilian @ 2.193706
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Eurogenes K13
# Population & Distance
1 Azeri 6.51
2 Turkish 6.96
3 Georgian_Jewish 8.92
4 Kurdish 9.24
5 Iranian 9.99
6 Armenian 10.17
7 Assyrian 10.5
8 Iranian_Jewish 13.18
9 Kurdish_Jewish 13.7
10 Kumyk 14.91
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Gedrosia K6 (This is also an interesting calculation as Thracian shared earlier. I guess I fit the best here physically , I was told I look Adygei, Chechen, Kumyk and Dagestani area people....)
# Population (source) Distance
1 Adygei 4.39
2 Chechen 5.28
3 Kumyk 5.62
4 Azeri 6.47
5 Iran_N_WC1 6.86
6 Armenia_ChL 6.86
7 Lezgin 7.07
8 Georgian 7.36
9 Iranian 7.63
10 Turkish 7.68
11 Balkar 7.95
12 Iran_recent 7.98
13 Kurd_C 8.76
14 Assyrian 9.19
15 Jew_Iranian 10.15
16 Jew_iraqi 10.71
17 Kurd_F 10.85
18 Druze 11.02
19 Syrian 11.25
20 Iranian_Mazandarani 11.51

Definetly possible. But could also be just Iranic since Azeris are basically intermediate between Turkey and Iran in term of Autosomal DNA (turkic element excluded). You seem very Caucasus shifted in general.

[Thracian]

That's a bad fit for an Azeri. Azeris have nothing to do with Cypriots.

Gedrosia K6 looks better for him.I also think he has some Turkish ancestry as well. Cypriots is a proxy for Native Anatolian ancestry.

[Thracian]

Mdlp k16 is far supierior to the shitty Dodecad, Harappa or whatever for Turkish people.

Nah. All MDLP calculators are suck for Turks. PuntDNAL k15 is better.

[Kyp]

Gedrosia K6 looks better for him.I also think he has some Turkish ancestry as well. Cypriots is a proxy for Native Anatolian ancestry.

Yes he seems a bit Anatolian shifted, which makes sense considering his location. But still the Cypriot/Turkmen can be a bit misleading.
The mixed mode seems better for him:


Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% georgia-jew_behar +50% turkmen_yunusbayev @ 3.698509

1 80.9% armenian (harappa) + 19.1% uzbek (behar) @ 3.25
2 95.4% turkish (harappa) + 4.6% oroqen (hgdp) @ 3.31
3 95.6% turkish (harappa) + 4.4% daur (hgdp) @ 3.34
4 95.1% turkish (harappa) + 4.9% buryat (xing) @ 3.34
5 83.5% armenian (harappa) + 16.5% hazara (hgdp) @ 3.35
6 95.6% turkish (harappa) + 4.4% hezhen (hgdp) @ 3.35
7 92% turkish (harappa) + 8% hazara (hgdp) @ 3.37
8 94.7% turkish (harappa) + 5.3% mongolian (rasmussen) @ 3.38
9 71.7% assyrian (harappa) + 28.3% uzbek (behar) @ 3.38
10 65.8% armenian (harappa) + 34.2% turkmen (yunusbayev) @ 3.39
11 95.6% turkish (harappa) + 4.4% mongola (hgdp) @ 3.39
12 95.3% turkish (harappa) + 4.7% buryat (rasmussen) @ 3.39
13 93.8% turkish (harappa) + 6.2% kyrgyz (xing) @ 3.44
14 51% georgia-jew (behar) + 49% turkmen (yunusbayev) @ 3.46
15 95.8% turkish (harappa) + 4.2% xibo (hgdp) @ 3.47
16 94% turkish (harappa) + 6% kyrgyz (hodoglugil) @ 3.47
17 52% turkmen (yunusbayev) + 48% lebanese-druze (haber) @ 3.48
18 94.6% turkish (harappa) + 5.4% altaian (rasmussen) @ 3.49
19 95.2% turkish (harappa) + 4.8% tuvinian (rasmussen) @ 3.49
20 92.5% turkish (harappa) + 7.5% uyghur (hgdp) @ 3.56

[reboun]

85.3% Georgian + 14.7% Cambodian @ 1.72

This one is interesting.

[Arzanene]

kars,18.85,4.72,0,1.59,10.31,5.51,2.20,0,12.02,4.9 6,39.59,0

results without deleting any populations.

Target: kars
Distance: 2.1505% / 2.15051357 | ADC: 0.5x RC
56.2 Azerbaijani_Turkey
21.9 Mandean
18.0 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
3.9 Oroqen

Target: kars
Distance: 1.5099% / 1.50985003 | ADC: 0.25x RC
60.9 Azerbaijani_Turkey
24.8 Armenian_West
6.9 Mandean
2.7 Burmanese
2.6 Oroqen
2.1 Evenk

with Turkish and azeri source populations removed from source. I think he might either have Alevi Qizilbash ancestry from Anatolia if it is Cappadocian greek ancestry. or some Armenian admixture if it is Armenian admixture rather than anatolian greek.

Target: kars
Distance: 3.6917% / 3.69173845 | ADC: 1x RC
33.7 Turkmen_Iran
25.7 Greek_Cappadocia
23.0 Armenian_East
17.6 Kurd_Sorani

Target: kars
Distance: 2.4566% / 2.45658413 | ADC: 0.5x RC
46.2 Armenian_West
41.0 Turkmen_Iran
8.7 Assyrian_South
4.1 Greek_Cappadocia

Target: kars
Distance: 1.1833% / 1.18329294 | ADC: 0.25x RC
55.7 Armenian_West
31.5 Turkmen_TM
7.1 Greek_Cappadocia
4.5 Khamnigan
1.2 Han_south