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    Quote Originally Posted by Jägerstaffel View Post
    Traditional American culture can be seen as an outgrowth of European traditions from the colonial/settler era.

    I remember discussing history with a woman last year. She mentioned how there is so much deep history in Europe versus a comparatively more recent history in the US. She brought up all the medieval castles in particular. I remember looking at her like she was crazy. We didn't just spring into existence in the eastern woodland of the New World in the 1600s or whatever. The castles of her ancestral regions are still part of the landscape of herancestry even if she's not a citizen of those places.
    America has lots of great old European culture that died out in Europe though

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gwydion View Post
    In what regard? I think there are indeed a few ways I am quite American, some stereotypical and silly (I love burgers bro.) Problem with the category American though is it is a bit broad in regards to the various cultures and peoples here, unless one only thinks of modern mass pop culture. For example a Cajun from Louisiana, an Appalachian of Scots-Irish descent, a Anglo-Vermonter, an Amish from Pennsylvania, a Texan, an African American, and so on are probably all quite different from each other on average in terms of behavior, culture, values, etc.

    On the thread topic though, here's an interesting example of a man who isn't even of mixed ancestry but had philosophical or spiritual gripes with his ancestry, Houston Stewart Chamberlain:

    After Cheltenham, Chamberlain always felt out of place in Britain, a society whose values Chamberlain felt were not his values, writing in 1876: "The fact may be regrettable but it remains a fact; I have become so completely un-English that the mere thought of England and the English makes me unhappy"

    It was only at the age of twenty three in November 1878, when he first heard the music of Richard Wagner—which struck him with all the force of a religious revelation—that Chamberlain became not only a Wagnerite, but an ardent Germanophile and Francophobe.[25][26] As he put later, it was then he realized the full "degeneracy" of the French culture that he had so admired compared to the greatness of the German culture that had produced Wagner, who Chamberlain viewed as one of the great geniuses of all time.[25] In the music of Wagner, Chamberlain finally found the mystical, life-affirming spiritual force that he had been unsuccessfully seeking to find in British and French cultures.[25] Further increasing his love of Germany was that he had fallen in love with a German woman named Anna Horst, and she with him.[27] As Chamberlain's wealthy, elitist family back in Britain objected to him marrying the lower middle-class Horst on the grounds that she was socially unsuitable for him, this further estranged him from Britain, a place whose people Chamberlain regarded as cold, unfeeling, callous and concerned only with money.[27]


    Who knows, maybe there's someone out there who is part Russian but dislike Russians? I am just curious to see how people feel about their backgrounds, especially those who have thought about it on a deeper level.
    Yea I mean American to me is gun loving, hunting, fishing, mudding
    Those who want to live, let them fight, and those who do not want to fight in this world of eternal struggle do not deserve to live.

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    I’ve always identified with my european part.
    "Wearing feelings on our faces while our faces took a rest
    We walked across the fields to see the children of the West
    But we saw a host of dark skinned warriors
    Standing still below the ground,
    Waiting for battle!" (Supper’s Ready, Genesis)

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    Quote Originally Posted by FountainOfSalmacis View Post
    I’ve always identified with my european part.
    Then you are mostly European even if you are mixed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaleoEuropean View Post
    Yea I mean American to me is gun loving, hunting, fishing, mudding
    or watching at least one pre-season NFL football game this weekend. Anybody that did that has to be American in my book.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daco Celtic View Post
    or watching at least one pre-season NFL football game this weekend. Anybody that did that has to be American in my book.
    This is the kind of shit that makes me feel non-American.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UltimatePagan View Post
    Then you are mostly European even if you are mixed.
    I already am mostly european by genotype, but mixed nevertheless.
    "Wearing feelings on our faces while our faces took a rest
    We walked across the fields to see the children of the West
    But we saw a host of dark skinned warriors
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jägerstaffel View Post
    This is the kind of shit that makes me feel non-American.
    Why is that? The idea of people sitting on their ass watching TV?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FountainOfSalmacis View Post
    I already am mostly european by genotype, but mixed nevertheless.
    If you feel European you are European and stay that way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daco Celtic View Post
    Why is that? The idea of people sitting on their ass watching TV?
    I don't watch TV so that's part of it I guess but more specifically when it comes to sports I don't understand how people pick teams to be fans of.

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