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    Quote Originally Posted by Finnish Swede View Post
    LOL. Of course he does. In Europe .... there are enough of evidences of that support (mainly money) ... in France, in Austria etc. But he/Putin supports those to destroy EU, not because they are nationalists. Like you said ... united Europe is the last thing what Russia wants (in Europe). Which is pretty natural from their side ... their own interests/agendas.
    Actually that isn't true. There are benefits in both variants but united Europe is far more profitable. It's much simpler to deal with one single market under uniform rules rather than develop individual relationships with many small Finlands.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarmatian View Post
    Actually that isn't true. There are benefits in both variants but united Europe is far more profitable. It's much simpler to deal with one single market under uniform rules rather than develop individual relationships with many small Finlands.
    I agree. Russians are by nature someway lazy but they ain't stupid at all. So here ... believe me ... some ''extra work'' will not harm them at all.

    LOL. Russians wants exactly to negotiate separately face to face with every countries in Europe. All countries in Baltic sea area knows that and at least all smaller ones have faced those attempts (''pressures'') too in last 10 years time. Why? Just because that would be much better for Russia. There is no rocket science behind of this. Russia is one and stays same ... but opposite side would change from huge market area (EU) to small individual countries. In the second case? Small countries would not have any power to real negotiate => Russians would set up the terms (I guess this actually what ''negotiation'' means in Russia ... based on your culture). Ok, the outcome? Russia would get better deals/contracts. Pretty simple as that.

    Nah ... you have to do much better if you really want to discuss with me.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Finnish Swede View Post
    I agree. Russians are by nature someway lazy but they ain't stupid at all. So here ... believe me ... some ''extra work'' will not harm them at all.

    LOL. Russians wants exactly to negotiate separately face to face with every countries in Europe. All countries in Baltic sea area knows that and at least all smaller ones have faced those attempts (''pressures'') too in last 10 years time. Why? Just because that would be much better for Russia. There is no rocket science behind of this. Russia is one and stays same ... but opposite side would change from huge market area (EU) to small individual countries. In the second case? Small countries would not have any power to real negotiate => Russians would set up the terms (I guess this actually what ''negotiation'' means in Russia ... based on your culture). Ok, the outcome? Russia would get better deals/contracts. Pretty simple as that.

    Nah ... you have to do much better if you really want to discuss with me.
    It is obvious to anyone with half a brain EU isn't going to survive. It has nothing to do with Russia but the way it was setup from the beginning. If Russia wants balkanized Europe all it has to do is sit and wait. You folks are going to start running away from each other rather soon.

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    This good old Trump.
    He regulary said unbelievable stuff and everybody wonder what the fuck is wrong with him.
    And when you dig the subject it makes sens and you wonder if he is a genius.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarmatian View Post
    It is obvious to anyone with half a brain EU isn't going to survive. It has nothing to do with Russia but the way it was setup from the beginning. If Russia wants balkanized Europe all it has to do is sit and wait. You folks are going to start running away from each other rather soon.
    EU? Maybe it won't, maybe it will (in near future). Only time will tell. Russian hopes that, no doubt. Just keep in minds; Russia will not stay in one piece for ever either.

    Common market area is the only good side in EU. So even if EU would collapse ... something similar would come instead. As that would be Europeans benefits (other than Russians).



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    Quote Originally Posted by Finnish Swede View Post
    Russian hopes that, no doubt.
    What makes you so sure?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jehan View Post
    This good old Trump.
    He regulary said unbelievable stuff and everybody wonder what the fuck is wrong with him.
    And when you dig the subject it makes sens and you wonder if he is a genius.
    He seems to have some serious strategists advising for him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarmatian View Post
    What makes you so sure?
    Realism. Anything else would be a'la irrational behavior.




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