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    Quote Originally Posted by Glauk View Post
    I don’t know maybe western because slovenian culture has nothing to do with balkan
    I don't see Slovenia as Balkan, but I've seen many Slovenes online identify as Balkan (I think the user Alenka also does). On another site, I asked a Slovene why so many of them online identify as Balkan even though it has such a negative connotation. He said that although many Slovenes don't associate with the Balkans due to the negative attributes it has, there are some that like to associate with the Balkans cause of some of the positive attributes it has (Balkan spirit, Balkan flair, food, outgoing, liveliness, etc). I think most would probably see themselves as South Slavic since its a purely linguistic category (unlike Balkan or Central European) but let's wait for Slovenes to answer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Feiichy View Post
    South Slavs should not be synonym with Balkan though. I feel very mediterranean culturally (with mitteleuropean and balkanic touches here and there), and very southern Slavic at the same time. No wonder when I live in middle of southern sea!
    Maybe coastal croats are Mediterranean because of the venetian influence, but other S.S. are balkan :/
    It’s the same with the region of Primorska and Goriska(Slovenija), they also have Mediterranean culture, but if you compare average slovenian with an average S.S the differ a lot, behavior, cuisine and mentality

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mingle View Post
    I don't see Slovenia as Balkan, but I've seen many Slovenes online identify as Balkan (I think the user Alenka also does). On another site, I asked a Slovene why so many of them online identify as Balkan even though it has such a negative connotation. He said that although many Slovenes don't associate with the Balkans due to the negative attributes it has, there are some that like to associate with the Balkans cause of some of the positive attributes it has (Balkan spirit, Balkan flair, food, outgoing, liveliness, etc). I think most would probably see themselves as South Slavic since its a purely linguistic category (unlike Balkan or Central European) but let's wait for Slovenes to answer.
    But, some linguists have opinion Slovene language is kind of an isolate between western and southern Slavic. Or mostly southern slavic with some arhaic western slavic features.

    I was curious to ask because I wonder weather Slovenes feel greater similarity and closeness with Czechs or Slovaks or with Croats or Serbs, for example (any west or south slav group can apply)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mingle View Post
    I don't see Slovenia as Balkan, but I've seen many Slovenes online identify as Balkan (I think the user Alenka also does). On another site, I asked a Slovene why so many of them online identify as Balkan even though it has such a negative connotation. He said that although many Slovenes don't associate with the Balkans due to the negative attributes it has, there are some that like to associate with the Balkans cause of some of the positive attributes it has (Balkan spirit, Balkan flair, food, outgoing, liveliness, etc). I think most would probably see themselves as South Slavic since its a purely linguistic category (unlike Balkan or Central European) but let's wait for Slovenes to answer.
    Maybe some identify with balkan because of the union with Jugoslavija but believe me the are not balkan i know them very well,I’m 3 generation of kosovo albanians in slovenia, 50% of my friends are slovenians and my last ex girlfriend was one

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    Quote Originally Posted by Feiichy View Post
    But, some linguists have opinion Slovene language is kind of an isolate between western and southern Slavic. Or moatly southern slavic with some arhaic western slavic features.
    Slovene is definitely a South Slavic language. This topic was brought up a few months ago by someone and when I looked into it, it seemed like it was only one person that called it a West Slavic language based off of one ancient manuscript. I can't find the link anymore but if I can then I'll post it here. Slovenian is part of the same dialect continuum as Kaykavian (Slovenian is basically a standardized version of western Kaykavian) and since Croatian Kaykavian is considered South Slavic, I don't see why Slovenian wouldn't. Also, the Pannonian Slavs were considered to speak South Slavic and they're closer to West Slavs in geography.

    I also recall reading before that Slovene is a South Slavic language but with some archaic Slavic features it shares with West Slavic, but they also lost an archaic feature (aorist tense to express the past). I don't think there are any modern linguists that dispute Slovene as a South Slavic language (maybe one but IDK) anyways.

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    Here is a paper you may be interested in that compares South Slavic and West Slavic languages: https://link.springer.com/article/10...185-015-9150-9

    According to Slovene-speakers (based on the paper above), they understand these languages (in their written form) at the following percentages:

    • Croatian - 80.85%
    • Bulgarian - 65.63%
    • Czech - 56.42%
    • Slovak - 56.78%
    • Polish 47.39%

    They did this for all languages (not only Slovene) and came up with this graph (the closer the dot the easier the written language is to understand):



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    Same as above but for the spoken form (from the POV of Slovene-speakers again):

    • Croatian - 82.26%
    • Bulgarian - 59.32%
    • Czech - 51.93%
    • Slovak - 56.27%
    • Polish - 41.87%

    Graph for the results above:



    I was curious to ask because I wonder weather Slovenes feel similarity and closeness with Czechs or Slovaks more than with Croats or Serbs, for example.
    Okay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alenka View Post
    What's so weird about it? How does it sound like to you guys?
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    almost understanable for me ,seems having a strong latin/italian influence in the flow ,the way of the R are roll up,the way how it's cut seems not completly difficult to learn phonically,certainly the most latinised of the meridional slavonic languages ,it's funny how siddharta made sounding slovenian almost "spanish/italian-like" with b-mashina a cover of a laibach track,and a last layer for the road if you like laibach watch the full live show,they surprised me,i have seen them a far time ago something like 1992/1993
    i like the musicality of the tongue,it's an harmonic tongue






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    Quote Originally Posted by Glauk View Post
    Žganci, potica, kranjska, klobasa, slivovi cmoki

    It depends wich Slovenians, those in border with italy are similar to italians, it depends on the region

    The third one I don’t know
    Slivovi cmoki



    It seems like a very similar dish to Polish ...

    Knedle ze śliwkami


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    Quote Originally Posted by Roy View Post
    Slivovi cmoki



    It seems like a very similar dish to Polish ...

    Knedle ze śliwkami


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sundqvist View Post
    other word - gozd - forest, South Slavs will use šuma, North-East las/les
    but you have a places like Gózd or Gozdnica here in Poland not Leśnica, and this little town lies in the middle of the forests
    In Czech we say LES but it exists also archic word HVOZD.
    We dont use term ŠUMA but mountains Bohemian Forest is called ŠUMAVA in Czech
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