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    Quote Originally Posted by Purohit ji View Post
    Baniya are less than 5%. But since they are highest in numbers who migrated abroad for buisness and education. Same like there are tamil iyer and iyenger.
    Rajasthani jaata do look less si shifted then brahmins of community. Who score 31%. Rajasthan. Has the highest population of jaata in india. South and south east rajsthan don't have many jaata.
    hmm. what do you suggest i use for rajasthan then? cause 25% south indian for rajasthan seems a bit far fetched, even though two jats from rajashtan on harappa seem more western shifted than haryana jatts. Rajashtanis on average cant be more northwest shifted than punjabis, kashmiris, and haryanvis. doesnt make sense imo. should i use rajasthan brahmin as average on the map for rajasthan? Jats in rajasthan could be very diverse for all we know while brahmins within each state are more or less homogenous. and rajasthan has a decent brahmin population.
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    How genetically diverse are Brahmins? If you're still doing these kinds of maps, I'd be curious what a Brahmin one would look like since they're spread all over India, but I'm not sure if one is warranted if they're almost all the same in most places.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mingle View Post
    How genetically diverse are Brahmins? If you're still doing these kinds of maps, I'd be curious what a Brahmin one would look like since they're spread all over India, but I'm not sure if one is warranted if they're almost all the same in most places.
    honestly not that much. NW brahmisn score in low 30s, UP/bihari/gujju brahmins in upper 30s/low 40s, and southern brahmins in mid-upper 40s. mid castes are more diverse i think. and lower castes and tribals have the most variation imo like irulas,paniyas that reach 80% in the south, to chamars, meenas in rajasthan/haryana/punjab in 40s to bhil,eastern tribals in 60s south indian and 20-30 south east asian nd almost non existant west eurasian.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thambi View Post
    hmm. what do you suggest i use for rajasthan then? cause 25% south indian for rajasthan seems a bit far fetched, even though two jats from rajashtan on harappa seem more western shifted than haryana jatts. Rajashtanis on average cant be more northwest shifted than punjabis, kashmiris, and haryanvis. doesnt make sense imo. should i use rajasthan brahmin as average on the map for rajasthan? Jats in rajasthan could be very diverse for all we know while brahmins within each state are more or less homogenous. and rajasthan has a decent brahmin population.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mingle View Post
    Is 40% the score for Punjabi Sikh Jatts?

    IIRC, Rors have the same amount of Steppe as Jatts from West UP and Haryana whereas Jatts from Punjab have less Steppe than those groups.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Purohit ji View Post
    No 40% is for west up jaat and 45% for haryana ror.
    Ror and jaat hate each other
    no west up Jat and Rors score about the same steppe. They get the second highest after tajiks in the south/central asian region.

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    Hi,

    I remember once someone said there are jatts being able to get 25% NE-euro and i think maybe it was you, who said it. Could you post them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hussein khan View Post
    Hi,

    I remember once someone said there are jatts being able to get 25% NE-euro and i think maybe it was you, who said it. Could you post them?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thambi View Post
    no west up Jat and Rors score about the same steppe. They get the second highest after tajiks in the south/central asian region.

    Are these numbers really accurate? If yes, then it means some of these groups have more Indo-European ancestry than most Southern Europeans. 40% is a lot.

    I've been to Rajasthan, Punjab and Haryana and from all of them Punjabis looked the least ASI-shifted but in Haryana I saw much more ''pseudo-white'' looking people. I remember there was a family in a line to enter Akshardham temple that I could not believe they were Indians at that time (it was my first time in India and I was still relying heavily on stereotypes), the little girl even had light-brown hair. Maybe they were Jatts.

    Curiously no one was staring at them or asking for pics and they could speak perfectly Hindi but some tourists who were darker than them got stared and asked for pics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    thanks, but this isnt what i wanted. i already seen those(even ones with 24% SI). I remember someone said some jatts could get up to 25% and i wanted to see that

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