Indian middle caste averages by State (S Indian, W Eurasian, and E Eurasian)

[Trouble]

Breakdown of each component

Baloch


Caucasian


Northeast European

I really doubt UP is as Baloch/Caucasian as Maharashtra or Gujarat

[rajputprincess]

Its northeast european btw, not northwest.

Jatts from haryana have the most ‘aryan’ like admix. They likely are more steppe derived rather than iran neolithic or aasi derived. Theyre a mystery group. Haryana jatts have second highest euro on average in the region after tajiks.

How much Euro jatt have and how much tajik have?

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[Trouble]

How much Euro jatt have and how much tajik have?

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Those from Hayana are usually around 17-18%. Tajiks are heterogenous with different origins so they vary.
This is from nmonte calculation

"sample": "Haryana_Jatt:Average",
"fit": 2.7829,
"PAK_Saidu_Sharif_H_o": 44.17,
"TKM_Gonur1_BA": 36.67,
"Estonian": 19.17,

[Thambi]

I really doubt UP is as Baloch/Caucasian as Maharashtra or Gujarat

most of my averages are based on this spreadsheet. you can search up kshatriya (UP), gujarati, etc.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...dd4/edit#gid=0

Patels are high, not the banias of gujarat. they are around 37-38% similar to the kits i posted in the mexican/indian caucasoid thread. I'm doubting the UP average now. the average on the spreadhsheet/map is lower than the kits i've seen from there. most are around 50% rather than 45%. but again banias are lower on caste heirarchy than kshatriyas. I havent come across up kshatriya kits yet. from UP i only have guptas and some agarwal kits.

[Trouble]

most of my averages are based on this spreadsheet. you can search up kshatriya (UP), gujarati, etc.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...dd4/edit#gid=0

Patels are high, not the banias of gujarat. they are around 37-38% similar to the kits i posted in the mexican/indian caucasoid thread. I'm doubting the UP average now. the average on the spreadhsheet/map is lower than the kits i've seen from there. most are around 50% rather than 45%. but again banias are lower on caste heirarchy than kshatriyas. I havent come across up kshatriya kits yet. from UP i only have guptas and some agarwal kits.

It's just not logical though. Baloch falls down the further east you go. NE Euro is definitely higher there, though.

[Thambi]

It's just not logical though. Baloch falls down the further east you go. NE Euro is definitely higher there, though.

i guess the non kshatriya mid castes score low baloch in UP. I have some gupta samples from UP/bihar not sure which and they score around 33-35% baloch so yeah i guess it depends on the population. when i created this thread, i barely came across any bania samples.

some guptas. could be from up/bihar. guptas are found in bengal as well, but im assuming these ones are not from there due to low east/se asian pull. I shared this on AG as well couple of days ago

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 S-Indian 42.89
2 Baloch 37.38
3 NE-Euro 8.59
4 Caucasian 5.88
5 NE-Asian 1.64
6 SE-Asian 1.51
7 Mediterranean 0.89
8 Siberian 0.73
9 SW-Asian 0.25
10 American 0.25

Spoiler!

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 gujarati-b (hapmap) 3.2
2 up-kshatriya (metspalu) 3.35
3 meghawal (reich) 3.97
4 vaish (reich) 3.98
5 brahmin-uttar-pradesh (metspalu) 3.98
6 karnataka-brahmin (harappa) 4.32
7 gujarati (harappa) 4.33
8 bihari-muslim (harappa) 4.47
9 maharashtrian (harappa) 4.66
10 bengali-brahmin (harappa) 4.68
11 up-brahmin (harappa) 4.84
12 brahmin-tamil-nadu (metspalu) 5.08
13 tn-brahmin (xing) 5.57
14 iyer-brahmin (harappa) 5.7
15 iyengar-brahmin (harappa) 5.74
16 ap-brahmin (xing) 6.66
17 rajasthani (harappa) 6.83
18 kerala-nair (harappa) 7.23
19 up (harappa) 8.37
20 singapore-indian-b (sgvp) 8.4

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 56.5% singapore-indian-c (sgvp) + 43.5% kanjar (metspalu) @ 1.58
2 51.2% srivastava (reich) + 48.8% kashmiri-pahari (harappa) @ 1.67
3 50.8% srivastava (reich) + 49.2% singapore-indian-c (sgvp) @ 1.74
4 63.7% singapore-indian-c (sgvp) + 36.3% up-scheduled-caste (metspalu) @ 1.79
5 54.2% singapore-indian-c (sgvp) + 45.8% up-muslim (metspalu) @ 1.81
6 66% brahmin-tamil-nadu (metspalu) + 34% nepalese-a (xing) @ 1.82
7 50.5% punjabi-ramgarhia (harappa) + 49.5% srivastava (reich) @ 1.84
8 64.1% singapore-indian-c (sgvp) + 35.9% lodi (reich) @ 1.84
9 52.9% singapore-indian-b (sgvp) + 47.1% nepalese-a (xing) @ 1.87
10 63.1% iyer-brahmin (harappa) + 36.9% nepalese-a (xing) @ 1.89
11 62.5% kanjar (metspalu) + 37.5% pathan (hgdp) @ 1.89
12 87.7% up-kshatriya (metspalu) + 12.3% burusho (hgdp) @ 1.89
13 67.1% singapore-indian-c (sgvp) + 32.9% kol (metspalu) @ 1.9
14 52% bihari (harappa) + 48% singapore-indian-c (sgvp) @ 1.91
15 53.7% singapore-indian-c (sgvp) + 46.3% dharkar (metspalu) @ 1.91
16 51.5% up-brahmin (harappa) + 48.5% brahmin-tamil-nadu (metspalu) @ 1.91
17 62.5% gujarati-b (hapmap) + 37.5% bengali-brahmin (harappa) @ 1.92
18 55.5% punjabi-brahmin (harappa) + 44.5% kanjar (metspalu) @ 1.92
19 61.1% kanjar (metspalu) + 38.9% bhatia (harappa) @ 1.93
20 77.5% up-kshatriya (metspalu) + 22.5% singapore-indian-c (sgvp) @ 1.94

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 S-Indian 48.1
2 Baloch 35.66
3 Caucasian 7.67
4 NE-Euro 2.45
5 NE-Asian 2.17
6 American 1.33
7 Siberian 0.95
8 Beringian 0.67
9 SE-Asian 0.45
10 Papuan 0.31
11 Mediterranean 0.23

Spoiler!

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 rajasthani (harappa) 3.03
2 kerala-christian (harappa) 3.47
3 brahmin-tamil-nadu (metspalu) 3.8
4 tn-brahmin (xing) 4.14
5 maharashtrian (harappa) 4.4
6 singapore-indian-b (sgvp) 4.57
7 iyer-brahmin (harappa) 4.64
8 kerala-nair (harappa) 4.93
9 ap-brahmin (xing) 5.21
10 iyengar-brahmin (harappa) 5.22
11 karnataka-brahmin (harappa) 5.29
12 ap-hyderabad (harappa) 5.35
13 up (harappa) 5.52
14 meghawal (reich) 5.64
15 gujarati (harappa) 5.71
16 bihari (harappa) 6.52
17 tamil (harappa) 6.79
18 bihari-muslim (harappa) 7.14
19 up-kshatriya (metspalu) 7.22
20 ap-reddy (harappa) 7.27

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 67.6% velama (reich) + 32.4% kashmiri (harappa) @ 1.75
2 82.7% velama (reich) + 17.3% tajik (yunusbayev) @ 1.89
3 62% tamil-vellalar (harappa) + 38% kashmiri (harappa) @ 2.07
4 71.1% tamil-vellalar (harappa) + 28.9% kalash (hgdp) @ 2.08
5 89.3% ap-reddy (harappa) + 10.7% lezgin (behar) @ 2.11
6 89.2% ap-reddy (harappa) + 10.8% urkarah (xing) @ 2.14
7 67.4% velama (metspalu) + 32.6% kashmiri (harappa) @ 2.15
8 89.9% ap-reddy (harappa) + 10.1% chechen (yunusbayev) @ 2.18
9 59.1% tamil-vellalar (harappa) + 40.9% kashmiri-pandit (reich) @ 2.28
10 89.1% ap-reddy (harappa) + 10.9% stalskoe (xing) @ 2.28
11 82.6% velama (metspalu) + 17.4% tajik (yunusbayev) @ 2.28
12 74.1% velama (reich) + 25.9% burusho (hgdp) @ 2.31
13 65.6% singapore-indian-a (sgvp) + 34.4% kalash (hgdp) @ 2.36
14 77.5% velama (reich) + 22.5% pashtun (harappa) @ 2.36
15 53.2% vysya (reich) + 46.8% kashmiri (harappa) @ 2.36
16 71.6% karnataka (harappa) + 28.4% kashmiri (harappa) @ 2.37
17 90.3% ap-reddy (harappa) + 9.7% balkar (yunusbayev) @ 2.38
18 90.4% ap-reddy (harappa) + 9.6% north-ossetian (yunusbayev) @ 2.38
19 90.4% ap-reddy (harappa) + 9.6% adygei (hgdp) @ 2.39
20 89.6% ap-reddy (harappa) + 10.4% kumyk (yunusbayev) @ 2.4

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 S-Indian 52.19
2 Baloch 36.22
3 Caucasian 3.67
4 NE-Euro 3.15
5 NE-Asian 1.66
6 SE-Asian 0.97
7 Mediterranean 0.94
8 Siberian 0.64
9 Pygmy 0.54
10 W-African 0.01

Spoiler!

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 singapore-indian-b (sgvp) 2.46
2 tharu (metspalu) 3.42
3 ap-reddy (harappa) 3.85
4 dharkar (metspalu) 3.96
5 up-muslim (metspalu) 4.24
6 karnataka (harappa) 4.24
7 ap-brahmin (xing) 4.55
8 rajasthani (harappa) 4.63
9 andhra-pradesh (harappa) 4.81
10 kanjar (metspalu) 4.97
11 up (harappa) 5.08
12 ap-hyderabad (harappa) 5.14
13 kerala-nair (harappa) 5.15
14 velama (metspalu) 5.16
15 iyengar-brahmin (harappa) 5.21
16 bihari (harappa) 5.28
17 iyer-brahmin (harappa) 5.28
18 tamil (harappa) 5.35
19 velama (reich) 5.48
20 kerala-christian (harappa) 5.69

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 68% brahmin-tamil-nadu (metspalu) + 32% vysya (reich) @ 1.6
2 79.4% velama (metspalu) + 20.6% nepalese-a (xing) @ 1.65
3 60.5% vysya (reich) + 39.5% kashmiri-pahari (harappa) @ 1.65
4 60% vysya (reich) + 40% punjabi-ramgarhia (harappa) @ 1.66
5 56.2% brahmin-tamil-nadu (metspalu) + 43.8% tamil-vellalar (harappa) @ 1.67
6 54.4% tamil-vellalar (harappa) + 45.6% gujarati-b (hapmap) @ 1.67
7 62% velama (metspalu) + 38% up-kshatriya (metspalu) @ 1.72
8 73.7% singapore-indian-b (sgvp) + 26.3% velama (metspalu) @ 1.75
9 81% singapore-indian-b (sgvp) + 19% tamil-vellalar (harappa) @ 1.77
10 60.3% brahmin-tamil-nadu (metspalu) + 39.7% dusadh (metspalu) @ 1.77
11 87.7% singapore-indian-b (sgvp) + 12.3% vysya (reich) @ 1.78
12 52.6% gujarati (harappa) + 47.4% tamil-vellalar (harappa) @ 1.81
13 70.5% velama (metspalu) + 29.5% bengali-brahmin (harappa) @ 1.81
14 71.4% velama (metspalu) + 28.6% brahmin-uttar-pradesh (metspalu) @ 1.82
15 57.6% brahmin-tamil-nadu (metspalu) + 42.4% lodi (reich) @ 1.82
16 64.8% gujarati (harappa) + 35.2% vysya (reich) @ 1.82
17 64.4% vysya (reich) + 35.6% punjabi-arain (xing) @ 1.84
18 57.5% velama (metspalu) + 42.5% karnataka-brahmin (harappa) @ 1.87
19 70.2% vysya (reich) + 29.8% bhatia (harappa) @ 1.87
20 71.4% tamil-vellalar (harappa) + 28.6% punjabi-ramgarhia (harappa) @ 1.91

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 S-Indian 50.33
2 Baloch 33.36
3 NE-Euro 6.67
4 SE-Asian 2.63
5 Caucasian 2.49
6 Mediterranean 1.54
7 Beringian 1.41
8 Papuan 0.89
9 American 0.5
10 SW-Asian 0.15
11 Siberian 0.03

Spoiler!

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 bihari (harappa) 2.97
2 srivastava (reich) 3.35
3 up (harappa) 3.42
4 dharkar (metspalu) 3.81
5 ap-brahmin (xing) 3.99
6 up-muslim (metspalu) 4.06
7 caribbean-indian (harappa) 4.08
8 singapore-indian-b (sgvp) 4.28
9 tharu (metspalu) 4.45
10 kanjar (metspalu) 4.82
11 iyengar-brahmin (harappa) 5.14
12 karnataka-brahmin (harappa) 5.36
13 rajasthani (harappa) 5.41
14 iyer-brahmin (harappa) 5.63
15 maharashtrian (harappa) 5.84
16 kerala-muslim (harappa) 6.21
17 andhra-pradesh (harappa) 6.37
18 ap-hyderabad (harappa) 6.48
19 up-kshatriya (metspalu) 6.51
20 tn-brahmin (xing) 6.56

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 72.5% gujarati-b (hapmap) + 27.5% gond (metspalu) @ 1.82
2 78.1% gujarati-b (hapmap) + 21.9% nihali (metspalu) @ 1.86
3 68.1% gujarati-b (hapmap) + 31.9% satnami (reich) @ 1.93
4 71.8% dusadh (metspalu) + 28.2% haryana-jatt (harappa) @ 1.98
5 73.9% up-kshatriya (metspalu) + 26.1% satnami (reich) @ 1.99
6 54.6% dusadh (metspalu) + 45.4% up-brahmin (harappa) @ 2.02
7 50.9% bengali-brahmin (harappa) + 49.1% lodi (reich) @ 2.04
8 77.8% up-kshatriya (metspalu) + 22.2% gond (metspalu) @ 2.04
9 51% brahmin-uttar-pradesh (metspalu) + 49% dusadh (metspalu) @ 2.06
10 57.4% lodi (reich) + 42.6% up-brahmin (harappa) @ 2.09
11 74.1% lodi (reich) + 25.9% haryana-jatt (harappa) @ 2.1
12 77.5% gujarati (harappa) + 22.5% gond (metspalu) @ 2.14
13 81% gujarati-b (hapmap) + 19% asur (chaubey) @ 2.17
14 53.7% bengali-brahmin (harappa) + 46.3% dusadh (metspalu) @ 2.17
15 89% ap-brahmin (xing) + 11% sahariya (reich) @ 2.18
16 68.3% tharu (metspalu) + 31.7% bengali-brahmin (harappa) @ 2.19
17 82.7% up-kshatriya (metspalu) + 17.3% nihali (metspalu) @ 2.19
18 66.2% kanjar (metspalu) + 33.8% bengali-brahmin (harappa) @ 2.23
19 51.8% lodi (reich) + 48.2% brahmin-uttar-pradesh (metspalu) @ 2.23
20 84.7% gujarati (harappa) + 15.3% asur (chaubey) @ 2.24

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