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    This make sense for eastern european/balkanic?
    -WHG
    -Barcin (Neolithic farmers)
    -Baltic HG
    - Yamnaya (for indo-europeans invaders)
    -Han (for Mongoloid dna)

    sample": "Custom:Andrei_scaled",
    "fit": 4.3228,
    "Anatolia_Barcin_N": 54.17,
    "Yamnaya_RUS_Samara": 37.5,
    "Baltic_LVA_HG": 7.5,
    "Han": 0.83,
    "WHG": 0,

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    Going by paternal lineage/Y-DNA and my admittedly limited knowledge:

    --Yamnaya
    --Bell Beaker
    --Tumulus/Urnfield Proto-Celts ?
    --Jastorf/Harpstedt-Nienburg Proto-Germanics
    --Anglo-Saxon or Norse (likely the latter)
    --Some Central/Northern British Isles population, likely Northern English but also possibly Scottish or Irish until I can prove it definitively
    --Yankee, in particular the New York/New Jersey populations descending primarily from New England Puritans (Southern/Eastern English), Dutch from New Amsterdam, and to a lesser extent Quakers (Northern English/English Midlands.)
    --And then with my father the said Yankee population mixing with an Irish-German woman, namely my mother

    In general though you could say the various historic populations of Northwest Europe with a particular emphasis on Britain and Ireland. The only exception would seem to be a minor Balto-Slavic-Finnic and Swedish element with my mother's Prussian ancestry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gwydion View Post
    Going by paternal lineage/Y-DNA and my admittedly limited knowledge:

    --Yamnaya
    --Bell Beaker
    --Tumulus/Urnfield Proto-Celts ?
    --Jastorf/Harpstedt-Nienburg Proto-Germanics
    --Anglo-Saxon or Norse (likely the latter)
    --Some Central/Northern British Isles population, likely Northern English but also possibly Scottish or Irish until I can prove it definitively
    --Yankee, in particular the New York/New Jersey populations descending primarily from New England Puritans (Southern/Eastern English), Dutch from New Amsterdam, and to a lesser extent Quakers (Northern English/English Midlands.)
    --And then with my father the said Yankee population mixing with an Irish-German woman, namely my mother

    In general though you could say the various historic populations of Northwest Europe with a particular emphasis on Britain and Ireland. The only exception would seem to be a minor Balto-Slavic-Finnic and Swedish element with my mother's Prussian ancestry.
    What would you estimate/guess is your ancestral breakdown (%) from 2000 years ago?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Creoda View Post
    What would you estimate/guess is your ancestral breakdown (%) from 2000 years ago?
    If I were just estimating wherever my paternal lineage was from, some tribal group from N. Germany and Scandinavia. I guess most of these people would be purely Germanic or partly Celtic the more south you go.

    If I take all my ancestors...something like 40-50% would either be tribes ancestral to the Anglo-Saxons or Celtic Britons, 20-30% would be Gaels, and 20-30% would be continental Germanic tribes and in particular Franks and Saxons. As mentioned a small percentage might have been some sort of Balto-Finnic-Slavs via Eastern Prussian ancestry, though this Prussian ancestry makes up the majority of my German ancestry and so could potentially be higher depending on how much my Prussian ancestors mixed with Slavs, Old Prussians, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Feiichy View Post
    My genetic mix appeared only in middle age, so I can't go further than that. Before medieval in Dalmatia lived completely different population and we are mostly invaders from north of Carpathian Zone mixed with those natives.
    That would be for most of us from western Balkans.

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    This thread is a cool idea but I need a week or so to figure it out. I have to make some phone calls to some of my dawgs and do some deep personal introspection. MyTrueAnecstry and other ancient calculators can't be trusted because they midpoint me and that's bogus. This exercise requires some historical knowledge. At the end of the day, I'm almost 50% Early Neo and 50% Yamnaya/Steepe with very little WHG. I question the necessity of WHG. Anyway, I need to return to this later.

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    How on Earth do you get all this clear data? The Mytrueancestry report is interesting (mentions corded ware in 2500bc, bell beaker in 2000bc, germanic/britain 1000bc, celt/britain/scythian around 1ad, frank/hungary 500ad, a mixture of vandals/saxons/vikings about 1000ad, and then lists my closest ancient ancestors as franks/visigoths/longobards).

    After which it says that my closest modern populations would be:

    1. Welsh (5.060)
    2. West_German (6.575)
    3. Southwest_English (7.082)
    4. North_Dutch (8.619)


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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Whatsit View Post
    How on Earth do you get all this clear data? The Mytrueancestry report is interesting (mentions corded ware in 2500bc, bell beaker in 2000bc, germanic/britain 1000bc, celt/britain/scythian around 1ad, frank/hungary 500ad, a mixture of vandals/saxons/vikings about 1000ad, and then lists my closest ancient ancestors as franks/visigoths/longobards).

    After which it says that my closest modern populations would be:

    1. Welsh (5.060)
    2. West_German (6.575)
    3. Southwest_English (7.082)
    4. North_Dutch (8.619)

    Ignore MyTrueAncestry. If you're English you should know roughly what the main ancestral components of English people are. They're not descended from Vandals, Visigoths, Longobards or Scythians.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Creoda View Post
    Ignore MyTrueAncestry. If you're English you should know roughly what the main ancestral components of English people are. They're not descended from Vandals, Visigoths, Longobards or Scythians.
    The Longobards are related though, in that my Ancestry DNA says 6% Swedish (and the Longobards are descended from the same stock). My geneaology research has traced my Paternal and Maternal lines back solidly to Eastern England in the 1500s, with a possible hint of Dutch, which leaves the situation a little open. Their "closest modern populations" is very much inline with such.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Whatsit View Post
    The Longobards are related though, in that my Ancestry DNA says 6% Swedish (and the Longobards are descended from the same stock). My geneaology research has traced my Paternal and Maternal lines back solidly to Eastern England in the 1500s, with a possible hint of Dutch, which leaves the situation a little open. Their "closest modern populations" is very much inline with such.
    If you're interested in being able to compare your dna to ancient and modern populations and get a better understanding I would encourage you to buy Global25 coordinates. That's how I've come to a lot of my conclusions.
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