New model for Iberians using new Gothic samples

[Token]

Models for Iberians using the new Gothic samples and previously published Celtiberian samples. The Goths were quite 'exotic' for a Germanic people, with quite a bit of Central Asian admixture too, so it should not be difficult to isolate their ancestry among modern people.

That's how the Gothic samples used here looks like:



[1] "distance%=1.414"
Portuguese
Celtiberian,63.4
Roman_Collegno,18.4
Guanche,10.2
Gothic_Chernyakhiv_Shyshaky,8

[1] "distance%=1.3796"
Spanish_Barcelones
Celtiberian,73
Roman_Collegno,17
Gothic_Chernyakhiv,4.8
Gothic2_Chernyakhiv,4.4
Guanche,0.8

[1] "distance%=1.0626"
Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona
Celtiberian,67.6
Roman_Collegno,19.4
Gothic2_Chernyakhiv,6.8
Gothic_Chernyakhiv,4
Guanche,2.2

[1] "distance%=1.681"
Spanish_Castello
Celtiberian,72
Roman_Collegno,17
Gothic2_Chernyakhiv,9
Guanche,2

[1] "distance%=1.2751"
Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
Celtiberian,73.8
Roman_Collegno,22.4
Guanche,3.8

[1] "distance%=1.239"
Spanish_Cataluna
Celtiberian,71.2
Roman_Collegno,12.6
Gothic2_Chernyakhiv,11.2
Guanche,5

[1] "distance%=1.604"
Spanish_Extremadura
Celtiberian,59.2
Roman_Collegno,18.4
Gothic2_Chernyakhiv,12
Guanche,10.4

[Token]

Galicians score very high 'Gothic', but i suppose this has to do with the denser Germanic input from Suebi there.

[1] "distance%=1.7785"
Spanish_Galicia
Celtiberian,54.4
Gothic_Chernyakhiv_Shyshaky,22.6
Guanche,12.4
Roman_Collegno,10.6

[Adamastor]

It seems Galicians have at the same time the most Northern European and North African genetic profile in the peninsula.

[Token]

It seems Galicians have at the same time the most Northern European and North African genetic profile in the peninsula.

Also apparently less Celtic, which is kinda ironic. The elevated North African is truly a mystery.

[Peterski]

Also apparently less Celtic, which is kinda ironic.

Nope.

They just have extra Insular Celtic input, in addition to Celtiberian. Hence the elevated level of R1b-L21 in Galicia. You should add some Irish, British or French Breton samples to that model:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Britonia

[Joso]

It seems Galicians have at the same time the most Northern European and North African genetic profile in the peninsula.

How do they look like?

[Token]

Nope.

They just have extra Insular Celtic input, in addition to Celtiberian. Hence the elevated level of R1b-L21 in Galicia. You should add some Irish, British or French Breton samples to that model.

Lets test your hypothesis,

[1] "distance%=1.717"
Spanish_Galicia
Celtiberian,48.8
Roman_Collegno,13.2
England_IA,12.8
Guanche,12.8
Gothic_Chernyakhiv_Shyshaky,12.4

The Germanic goes back to normal Iberian levels. Briton admixture seems feasible to me.

[Dick]

Goths had a talent for acculturation it seems;


1 UKR_Chernyakhiv_Shyshaky:Average Iberia_Northeast_c.6CE_PL I12163 Ancient; CE:550 2.716
2 UKR_Chernyakhiv_Shyshaky:Average HUN_MA_Szolad SZ5 Ancient; CE:505 3.257
3 UKR_Chernyakhiv_Shyshaky:Average Hungarian NA15207 Modern; 3.299
4 UKR_Chernyakhiv_Shyshaky:Average Montenegrin Montenegro7 Modern; 3.437
5 UKR_Chernyakhiv_Shyshaky:Average Serbian Serbian_Serbia5 Modern; 3.465
6 UKR_Chernyakhiv_Shyshaky:Average Custom AGUser_Dorkymon 3.61
7 UKR_Chernyakhiv_Shyshaky:Average German German28 Modern; 3.715
8 UKR_Chernyakhiv_Shyshaky:Average Austrian Austria7 Modern; 3.731
9 UKR_Chernyakhiv_Shyshaky:Average Bell_Beaker_HUN_EBA_Averaged Averaged 3.783



1 UKR_Chernyakhiv_Legedzine:Average Polish Polish39 Modern; 3.153
2 UKR_Chernyakhiv_Legedzine:Average Bell_Beaker_Bavaria I5531 Ancient; BCE:2250 3.491
3 UKR_Chernyakhiv_Legedzine:Average Slovakian_Averaged Averaged 3.566
4 UKR_Chernyakhiv_Legedzine:Average Ukrainian Ukrainian10 Modern; 3.567
5 UKR_Chernyakhiv_Legedzine:Average Slovakian Slovakia85 Modern; 3.571
6 UKR_Chernyakhiv_Legedzine:Average Ukrainian UKR-2021 3.626
7 UKR_Chernyakhiv_Legedzine:Average SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna vik_urm160 3.644
8 UKR_Chernyakhiv_Legedzine:Average SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna vik_grt036 3.655
9 UKR_Chernyakhiv_Legedzine:Average Slovakian Slovakia94 Modern; 3.669


http://185.144.156.77:3000/checkfit.html

[Token]

Goths had a talent for acculturation it seems;


1 UKR_Chernyakhiv_Shyshaky:Average Iberia_Northeast_c.6CE_PL I12163 Ancient; CE:550 2.716
2 UKR_Chernyakhiv_Shyshaky:Average HUN_MA_Szolad SZ5 Ancient; CE:505 3.257
3 UKR_Chernyakhiv_Shyshaky:Average Hungarian NA15207 Modern; 3.299
4 UKR_Chernyakhiv_Shyshaky:Average Montenegrin Montenegro7 Modern; 3.437
5 UKR_Chernyakhiv_Shyshaky:Average Serbian Serbian_Serbia5 Modern; 3.465
6 UKR_Chernyakhiv_Shyshaky:Average Custom AGUser_Dorkymon 3.61
7 UKR_Chernyakhiv_Shyshaky:Average German German28 Modern; 3.715
8 UKR_Chernyakhiv_Shyshaky:Average Austrian Austria7 Modern; 3.731
9 UKR_Chernyakhiv_Shyshaky:Average Bell_Beaker_HUN_EBA_Averaged Averaged 3.783



1 UKR_Chernyakhiv_Legedzine:Average Polish Polish39 Modern; 3.153
2 UKR_Chernyakhiv_Legedzine:Average Bell_Beaker_Bavaria I5531 Ancient; BCE:2250 3.491
3 UKR_Chernyakhiv_Legedzine:Average Slovakian_Averaged Averaged 3.566
4 UKR_Chernyakhiv_Legedzine:Average Ukrainian Ukrainian10 Modern; 3.567
5 UKR_Chernyakhiv_Legedzine:Average Slovakian Slovakia85 Modern; 3.571
6 UKR_Chernyakhiv_Legedzine:Average Ukrainian UKR-2021 3.626
7 UKR_Chernyakhiv_Legedzine:Average SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna vik_urm160 3.644
8 UKR_Chernyakhiv_Legedzine:Average SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna vik_grt036 3.655
9 UKR_Chernyakhiv_Legedzine:Average Slovakian Slovakia94 Modern; 3.669


http://185.144.156.77:3000/checkfit.html

The fact that the first one is closest to a Iberian Goth is certainly not a coincidence.

[Peterski]

The fact that the first one is closest to a Iberian Goth is certainly not a coincidence.

Some Goths went to Iberia and some stayed back at the Vistula (Polish39).