How The North American Continent Would Be if it was Colonized by Spaniards?

[alnortedelsur]

It is not just about surviving the cold. It is also about building houses there, farms, etc. It's just a different beast setting up shop there compared to warmer areas so they might not even bother. Northern Europeans who had some analogue to the cold climates of the northeast and midwest had no problem adapting to it.

What part didn't you understand of that most of inner Spain is as cold (or even colder) in winter as most of British Isles, Northern France, Belgium, parts of Germany, etc? With that said, I don't see how a country like UK would be supposed to be more fit to settle in those places of US with very cold winters than Spaniards

Madrid, Zaragoza, Guadalajara, Ciudad Real, Cuenca, etc are at least as cold (if not colder) in winter as London or Dublin. And Soria, Valladolid, Avila, Segovia, Teruel, etc are even much colder than that.

But in any case, as I have said countless times earlier in this thread, Spaniards wouldn't have colonized those areas of United States massively settling them with their people like British did. They more likely would have colonized it like they initially did with Argentina (mostly mestizo population with a Spanish/Criollo minority), but very likely in the long run (more likely after the independence from Spain), lots of Spaniards would have immigrated to those lands, just like they did in Argentina. Immigrating to those cold winter areas in the late 1800s and early 1900s wasn't such as big challenge (when heating technologies were already in use) like it was back in 1600s.

Also, did you know that Mexico City and Bogota and their surrounding areas (very well colonized by Spaniards) can be sometimes as much freezing-cold at night as the freaking winters in New York or Philadelphia? Just saying.

[Cristiano viejo]

Agree on everything, but I think in the long run (if it wasn't for the intrusion of British and French North America) Spaniards would have ended up slowly and little by little, settling their presence in there.

Of course. In fact Spaniards controlled Nootka Island, in Canada, for some years, and even arrived to Alaska many times, claiming it for Spain. But then the Anglo-Spanish war (1779-1783) and the later Adams-Onís Treaty with USA (1821) finished with the Spanish aspirations.

[NSXD60]

What would have sunk Spaniards was their corrupt leadership based solely on class, as opposed to US founding fathers, whom, almost as greedy, still were willing to lose everything based on their dislike of tyrannical kingship.

[Ruggery]

What would have sunk Spaniards was their corrupt leadership based solely on class, as opposed to US founding fathers, whom, almost as greedy, still were willing to lose everything based on their dislike of tyrannical kingship.

The founders did not hate the UK, they hated royalty, am I wrong? It's a shame that everything they fought for is being lost.

[NSXD60]

Yep, opposition to royalty and the inability to counter the king's policies without a vote.

[Russki]

Like Latin America.

Bruh.

[alnortedelsur]

Like Latin America.

Bruh.

Not a typical banana republic, but more something like the southern cone (Argentina, Chile, Uruguay, southern Brazil).

[Peterski]

Not a typical banana republic, but more something like the southern cone (Argentina, Chile, Uruguay, southern Brazil).

Spaniards had big problems when fighting against Northern Natives (who were better warriors than Natives in Latin America).

In 1680 Pueblo Uprising kicked the Spaniards out of New Mexico.

In 1751 Indiands expelled the Spaniards from entire Arizona.

And later they were losing when fighting against the Comanche.

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I'm not so sure the Spaniards would be able to conquer Native North Americans.

[Cristiano viejo]

Spaniards had big problems when fighting against Northern Natives (who were better warriors than Natives in Latin America).

In 1680 Pueblo Uprising kicked the Spaniards out of New Mexico.

In 1751 Indiands expelled the Spaniards from entire Arizona.

And later they were losing when fighting against the Comanche.

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I'm not so sure the Spaniards would be able to conquer Native North Americans.

Absolutely the opposite. Spaniards had biggest problems fighting against Mapuches in Chile.

Pueblo Indians and Comanches were defeated as fuck, not sure from where you get your claim.

[Russki]

Not a typical banana republic, but more something like the southern cone (Argentina, Chile, Uruguay, southern Brazil).

Canada perhaps, not the US.