Balts or Celts: who would be victorious?

[Euroball]

These 2 ethnicities are from smaller less populated nations set apart by distance, their peoples and cultures never clashing. Had they clashed in war who would have came out on top?

[21993]

hard question

[Ülev]

The Komids

[Ayetooey]

Balts because Balts actually exist in a meaningful sense; where as Celts got cucked and destroyed by everyone who encountered them.

[Euroball]

Balts because Balts actually exist in a meaningful sense; where as Celts got cucked and destroyed by everyone who encountered them.

Steady on there, wasn't it the Celtic boii who basically annihilated the Illyrians culturally, conquered their territories and celticized them? Sacked Rome before any other European tribes could or dared to, sacked Delphi in ancient greece. Were hired as mercenaries in egypt. Defeated the Macedonians. Conquered and lorded over other Balkan tribes too ruling most of Dacia/Romania for 400 years.

As for balts they have also been influenced heavily by neighbouring Slavs particularly russian rulership. German empire too. They've certainly been more successful militarily than balkanites but are more equal to Celts but one group would edge it.

[Ayetooey]

Steady on there, wasn't it the Celtic boii who basically annihilated the Illyrians culturally, conquered their territories and celticized them? They also conquered and lorded over other Balkan tribes ruling most of Dacia/Romania for 400 years.

As for balts they have also been influenced heavily by neighbouring Slavs particularly russian rulership. German empire.

Illyrians weren't exactly chads themselves; they were romanised before being annihilated by avar and slavic tribes. However very little celtic y dna remains in the Balkans where as we still have a lot of clades found among proto Illyrians; that should say something.

[Euroball]

Illyrians weren't exactly chads themselves; they were romanised before being annihilated by avar and slavic tribes. However very little celtic y dna remains in the Balkans where as we still have a lot of clades found among proto Illyrians; that should say something.

Well of course there's bound to still be Illyrian blood in the lands they originated it's expected. But they're still mongrelized in a way Celts of Ireland and Scotland are not. There's no competition. Illyria is now minority or partial Illyrian ethnically, their language extinct cause of Celtic expansion and later Roman. Celtic countries are still majority Celtic and have millions of fluent Celtic speakers.

Illyrians Vs Armenians or basques, or better yet Illyrians vs Iberians, would be a fairer comparison. No match for Celts, even the great Dacians couldn't contend with Celtic power in the Balkans taking them 4 centuries to muster up enough might to finally liberate themselves from Celtic rule. Still quicker than the Spanish taking 700 to oust the Moors I guess.

[Jana]

Well of course there's bound to still be Illyrian blood in the lands they originated it's expected. But they're still mongrelized in a way Celts of Ireland and Scotland are not. There's no competition. Illyria is now minority or partial Illyrian ethnically, their language extinct cause of Celtic expansion and later Roman. Celtic countries are still majority Celtic and have millions of fluent Celtic speakers.

Illyrians Vs Armenians or basques, or better yet Illyrians vs Iberians, would be a fairer comparison. No match for Celts

No, completely wrong.
There is no Celtic admixture in core Illyrian lands.

In Dalmatia where most famous Illyrian tribes lived were never any Celts and Celtic admixture/traces are 0.

Celts and Illyrians mixed only in Noricum and Panonnia amd it was Celts who became Illyrianized (like Panonni).

[Ayetooey]

No, completely wrong.
There is no Celtic admixture in core Illyrian lands.

In Dalmatia where most famous Illyrian tribes lived were never any Celts and Celtic admixture/traces are 0.

Celts and Illyrians mixed only in Noricum and Panonnia amd it was Celts who became Illyrianized (like Panonni).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...lyria#Dalmatae

"Dalmatae were an ancient Illyrian tribe. They were later Celticized. The Delmatae had 342 decuriae.".

It also says here.

"The gradual Celticization of all of Pannonia took place in the 3rd century BCE.[16] Names became Celtic,[16] as seen in Roman times, and Celts had established control[16] north of the Sava and south and west of the Danube. In the western half and west of Pannonia the Pre-Celtic language disappeared.[16] By the first half of the 1st century BCE[16] the language of the Illyrians in Northern Dalmatia was completely Celticized. There is an abundance of Celtic names in Illyria sometimes making the Illyrian ones seem few.[17] Those parts of Pannonia that had not been conquered by the first Celtic invasion were already Celticized by the beginning of the 3rd century BCE.[16] The Dalmatae[18] had been Celticized by the 3rd century BCE.[7] In the region of Pannonia as a Roman province Celticization had almost completely eradicated Illyrian culture.[19"

[Jana]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...lyria#Dalmatae

"Dalmatae were an ancient Illyrian tribe. They were later Celticized. The Delmatae had 342 decuriae.".

It also says here.

"The gradual Celticization of all of Pannonia took place in the 3rd century BCE.[16] Names became Celtic,[16] as seen in Roman times, and Celts had established control[16] north of the Sava and south and west of the Danube. In the western half and west of Pannonia the Pre-Celtic language disappeared.[16] By the first half of the 1st century BCE[16] the language of the Illyrians in Northern Dalmatia was completely Celticized. There is an abundance of Celtic names in Illyria sometimes making the Illyrian ones seem few.[17] Those parts of Pannonia that had not been conquered by the first Celtic invasion were already Celticized by the beginning of the 3rd century BCE.[16] The Dalmatae[18] had been Celticized by the 3rd century BCE.[7] In the region of Pannonia as a Roman province Celticization had almost completely eradicated Illyrian culture.[19"

Sounds like complete BS to be honest.
There are no traces of Celts south of Sava river in CRO.

Main difference between southern and northern Croats is that they have Celtic blood unlike us - and that is why we are more eastern and southern shifted compared to them.