Europe from Lisbon to Vladivastok

**vorobuthek** · 08-20-2019, 11:29 PM

Russia is a European country, French President Emmanuel Macron has said following talks with President Vladimir Putin.

Macron hosted Putin in France on Monday, where the French leader played up efforts “to tie Russia and Europe back together” and underscored his belief that “Europe stretches from Lisbon to Vladivostok.”

What do you think about Macron's statement? In your opinion, is it possible to create a united white state from Lisbon to Vladivastok in the future? Can countries such as the United States, Canada, Argentina, Uruguay, Chile, South Africa, Australia and New Zealand enter this hypothetical white country?

Translation of the tweet in the picture: the guys only have one thing on their mind, and this is awesome *_*
(Greater Europe from Lisbon to Vladivastok)

**Blondie** · 08-21-2019, 12:11 AM

If Vladivastok is european than i'm bantu

**Dragoon** · 08-21-2019, 01:33 AM

Here is the positives of any such idea:

It would make the EU less leftist.
Perhaps the ideas might shift back into western Europe which have heavily been cucked in few last decades.
Europe is stronger (population, military, resources).

The negatives:

Its tough imagine most people trusting such a plan, because of remembering Communism (losses to people or economy), geopolitical differences (countries of middle Europe still see the threat from the East), and Western Europe is so liberal its nuts.
There might be problem of restributing money from Western Europe to East. If I put myself in Western Europe shoes, id hate what the EU has done in economic ways.
The Russians themselves have a lot of immigrants.

**Crn Volk** · 08-21-2019, 01:36 AM

Originally Posted by Blondie

If Vladivastok is european than i'm bantu

Population-wise Vladivostok is more European than Marseilles for example, or some other West European towns. But yeah, geographically it's in Asia.

**Mingle** · 08-21-2019, 01:40 AM

Originally Posted by Crn Volk

Population-wise Vladivostok is more European than Marseilles for example, or some other West European towns. But yeah, geographically it's in Asia.

So basically its as European as Perth is.

**Crn Volk** · 08-21-2019, 01:42 AM

Originally Posted by Mingle

So basically its as European as Perth is.

Yes.

**~~Rob1992~~** · 08-21-2019, 02:22 AM

Greater Europe or nothing!

"1. Alain de Benoist’s Europe of a Hundred Flags

One of the few European geopolitical schools which has preserved an uninterrupted link with the ideas of the pre-war German continentalist geopoliticians is that of the “New Right.” This trend appeared in France in the late ’60’s and is associated with the philosopher and publicist Alain de Benoist, the leading figure of the movement.

The “New Right” sharply differs on practically all matters from the traditional French right consisting of monarchists, Catholics, Germanophobes, chauvinists, anti-communists, conservatives, etc. The “New Right” includes those who support “organic democracy,” pagans, Germanophiles, socialists, modernists, etc. At the beginning, the “left camp” so conventionally, extremely influential in France considered such to be a “tactical maneuver” by typical rightists, but with time the gravity of this evolution was proven and came to be recognized by all.

One of the fundamental principles of the “New Right’s” ideology, analogues of which soon appeared in other European countries, is the principal of “continental geopolitics.” In contrast to the “old right” and classical nationalists, de Benoist believed that the principle of the centralized Nation-State has been historically exhausted and that the future belongs only to “Great Spaces.” The basis of such “Large Spaces” are to be not so much associations of various states in a pragmatic political bloc, but the equal-footed conglomeration of ethnic groups of different scales into a “Federal Empire.” Such a “Federal Empire” is supposed to be strategically unified, yet ethnically differentiated. Moreover, such strategic unity is to be underpinned by the unity of primordial culture.

The “Large Space” which interested de Benoist most of all was Europe. The New Right believed that the peoples of Europe possess a common Indo-European heritage, a single origin, and the principle of a “common past.” The conditions of the modern epoch, in which tendencies of strategic and economic integration are actively essential for the possession of any real geopolitical sovereignty, dictate the necessity of uniting in even a purely pragmatic sense. Thus, the peoples of Europe are destined for a “common future,” and therein de Benoist draws the conclusion that the thesis of a “United Europe of a hundred flags” [16] must become Europeans’ fundamental geopolitical standard. In such a perspective, as in all the concepts of the New Right, a striving to combine “conservative” and “modernist” elements,i.e., “right” and “left” principles, is clearly visible. In recent years, the New Right has rejected such a label insofar as it considers itself to be “right” to the same extent that it is “left.”

De Benoist’s geopolitical theses are based on an affirmation of the “continental fate of Europe.” In this regard, he fully adheres to the conceptions of Haushofer’s school. From this follows the New Right’s characteristic juxtaposition of “Europe” and the “West.” For them, Europe is a continental, geopolitical formation founded on an ensemble of ethnicities with a common Indo-European origin and possessing common cultural roots. This concept is a traditional one. The “West,” on the contrary, is a geopolitical and historical concept of the modern world which denies ethnic and spiritual traditions, instead putting forth purely material and quantitative criteria of existence, i.e., an essentially utilitarian and rationalist, mechanistic bourgeois civilization. Accordingly, the USA is understood as the most complete incarnation of the West and its “civilization.” "