Southwestern Ukrainian and almost identical to Croats?

[vbnetkhio]

this is a Boyko Ukrainian

Amerindian 0.00
Arabian 0.00
Armenian 1.06
Basque 2.09
Central_African 0.00
Central_Euro 8.71
East_African 0.00
East_Asian 0.00
East_Balkan 8.52
East_Central_Asian 0.00
East_Central_Euro 17.19
East_Med 4.14
Eastern_Euro 13.05
Fennoscandian 4.11
French 3.22
Iberian 11.28
Indo_Chinese 0.00
Italian 12.54
Malayan 0.00
Near_Eastern 0.05
North_African 0.00
North_Atlantic 4.69
North_Caucasian 2.41
North_Sea 2.94
Northeast_African 0.00
Oceanian 0.00
Omotic 0.00
Pygmy 0.00
Siberian 0.00
South_Asian 0.00
South_Central_Asian 0.00
South_Chinese 0.00
Volga_Ural 2.94
West_African 0.00
West_Caucasian 0.41
West_Med 0.65

[Cumansky]

Do you know any deeper ? For example my maternal side is same like this person, Y4460, that is under Din N.

I am not same that Andrei guy I am familiar with the I2 tree, but have to deeper testing to find out exactly. I have good idea but no point to speculate until I do the test

[Aspirin]

Checked his surname, and I was right, is popular only in Carpathian region, somewhere between Boyko and Hutsul lands.

https://ridni.org/karta/%D0%9B%D1%83...B4%D1%8F%D0%BA

[Dušan]

1 Croatian 2.16

15 78.9% South_Polish + 21.1% Greek_Thessaly @ 1.69

He got only 20% Greek Thessaly in K13 and it is closest to Croatian average. Its correct.


I got nearly 40% Greek Thessaly in K13, and still stupid Gedmatch rank me Croatian before Serbian.

1 Moldavian 4.63
2 Croatian 6.84
3 Serbian 8.18


2 60.5% Ukrainian + 39.5% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.89

[Roy]

Perhaps, some scholars mention possible relations of White Croats with Carpi people who lived in modern Moldavia close to Carpathian region, amd they seemed to be Dacians.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carpi_(people)

Interesting. I've never heard about Carpi people actually.

[Leto]

Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15 Oracle results:

Kit T646810

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 22.55
2 North_Sea 18.87
3 Eastern_Euro 17.39
4 Atlantic 17.16
5 West_Med 8.36
6 East_Med 6.56
7 West_Asian 5.96
8 Red_Sea 1.99
9 South_Asian 0.48
10 Siberian 0.41
11 Sub-Saharan 0.18
12 Oceanian 0.1

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Croatian 2.82
2 Moldavian 5.26
3 South_Polish 6.05
4 Hungarian 6.53
5 Ukrainian_Lviv 6.68
6 Ukrainian 7.1
7 Austrian 7.48
8 Polish 8.3
9 Russian_Smolensk 8.98
10 Ukrainian_Belgorod 9.48
11 Serbian 9.7
12 Southwest_Russian 9.79
13 East_German 10.07
14 Estonian_Polish 11.18
15 Belorussian 11.24
16 Romanian 12.45
17 Kargopol_Russian 12.91
18 Southwest_Finnish 13.31
19 Estonian 13.68
20 Finnish 13.69

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 53.6% Serbian + 46.4% Estonian_Polish @ 0.74
2 52% Russian_Smolensk + 48% Serbian @ 1.16
3 53.7% Serbian + 46.3% Belorussian @ 1.2
4 50.2% Serbian + 49.8% Southwest_Russian @ 1.52
5 77.9% Polish + 22.1% Central_Greek @ 1.53
6 70.9% Southwest_Russian + 29.1% North_Italian @ 1.53
7 71.6% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 28.4% North_Italian @ 1.64
8 77.4% Polish + 22.6% Ashkenazi @ 1.68
9 60.3% Polish + 39.7% Romanian @ 1.69
10 78.4% Polish + 21.6% East_Sicilian @ 1.7
11 77.3% Polish + 22.7% Italian_Abruzzo @ 1.74
12 79.9% Polish + 20.1% South_Italian @ 1.82
13 61.2% Serbian + 38.8% Lithuanian @ 1.85
14 54.1% Polish + 45.9% Serbian @ 1.85
15 85.8% Croatian + 14.2% Kargopol_Russian @ 1.86
16 74.2% Polish + 25.8% Greek @ 1.88
17 50.6% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 49.4% Serbian @ 1.88
18 64.5% Polish + 35.5% Bulgarian @ 1.9
19 88.2% Croatian + 11.8% Erzya @ 1.94
20 87.2% Croatian + 12.8% East_Finnish @ 1.95

Spoiler!

Kit T392650

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 22.62
2 North_Sea 19.58
3 Eastern_Euro 18.92
4 Atlantic 13.14
5 West_Med 10.41
6 West_Asian 6.59
7 East_Med 4.88
8 Red_Sea 1.63
9 Southeast_Asian 0.99
10 Siberian 0.84
11 Amerindian 0.23
12 Oceanian 0.16

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Moldavian 4.77
2 Croatian 5.39
3 Ukrainian_Lviv 6.24
4 Ukrainian 6.3
5 South_Polish 6.97
6 Hungarian 8.15
7 Polish 9.4
8 Ukrainian_Belgorod 9.63
9 Southwest_Russian 10.04
10 Russian_Smolensk 10.22
11 Austrian 10.95
12 Serbian 11.28
13 East_German 11.65
14 Estonian_Polish 11.83
15 Belorussian 12.16
16 Kargopol_Russian 12.21
17 East_Finnish 13.72
18 Romanian 13.74
19 Estonian 13.97
20 Erzya 13.98

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 75.4% Moldavian + 24.6% Kargopol_Russian @ 2.77
2 78% Moldavian + 22% Erzya @ 2.81
3 59.5% Moldavian + 40.5% Ukrainian @ 2.83
4 75.9% Moldavian + 24.1% Estonian_Polish @ 3.09
5 72.7% Moldavian + 27.3% Southwest_Russian @ 3.16
6 71.4% Moldavian + 28.6% Polish @ 3.19
7 79.2% Moldavian + 20.8% East_Finnish @ 3.24
8 79.6% Moldavian + 20.4% Estonian @ 3.25
9 72.4% Moldavian + 27.6% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 3.3
10 77.5% Moldavian + 22.5% Belorussian @ 3.35
11 64.3% Moldavian + 35.7% South_Polish @ 3.35
12 61% Moldavian + 39% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 3.41
13 82.1% Moldavian + 17.9% Lithuanian @ 3.45
14 74.8% Moldavian + 25.2% Russian_Smolensk @ 3.5
15 84.6% Ukrainian + 15.4% Ashkenazi @ 3.54
16 85% Ukrainian + 15% Central_Greek @ 3.57
17 82.4% Ukrainian + 17.6% Greek @ 3.64
18 67.5% Ukrainian + 32.5% Serbian @ 3.65
19 85.5% Ukrainian + 14.5% East_Sicilian @ 3.66
20 72.1% Ukrainian + 27.9% Romanian @ 3.66

Kit Z762442

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 23.3
2 Atlantic 17.78
3 North_Sea 17.76
4 Eastern_Euro 15.01
5 West_Med 10.38
6 East_Med 7.97
7 West_Asian 3.65
8 Red_Sea 3.06
9 South_Asian 0.79
10 Southeast_Asian 0.29

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Croatian 3.58
2 Moldavian 6.31
3 Hungarian 7.06
4 Austrian 7.64
5 South_Polish 8.09
6 Ukrainian_Lviv 8.21
7 Ukrainian 8.84
8 Serbian 9.32
9 Polish 10.08
10 Russian_Smolensk 10.71
11 East_German 10.78
12 Romanian 11.74
13 Ukrainian_Belgorod 11.87
14 Southwest_Russian 12.07
15 Estonian_Polish 12.64
16 Belorussian 12.68
17 Bulgarian 13.73
18 Southwest_Finnish 15.09
19 Kargopol_Russian 15.44
20 Estonian 15.49

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 65.3% Estonian_Polish + 34.7% Tuscan @ 1.95
2 65.3% Belorussian + 34.7% Tuscan @ 2.09
3 59.3% Lithuanian + 40.7% Tuscan @ 2.33
4 63.5% Belorussian + 36.5% North_Italian @ 2.54
5 57.4% Lithuanian + 42.6% North_Italian @ 2.55
6 78.3% Polish + 21.7% Algerian_Jewish @ 2.72
7 63.7% Estonian_Polish + 36.3% North_Italian @ 2.8
8 73.8% Polish + 26.2% West_Sicilian @ 2.82
9 77.9% Polish + 22.1% Italian_Jewish @ 2.92
10 69.5% Russian_Smolensk + 30.5% Tuscan @ 2.93
11 69.3% Polish + 30.7% Greek @ 2.98
12 74.4% Polish + 25.6% East_Sicilian @ 3.01
13 76.2% Polish + 23.8% South_Italian @ 3.01
14 78.3% Polish + 21.7% Sephardic_Jewish @ 3.03
15 70.9% Polish + 29.1% Tuscan @ 3.06
16 64.9% Southwest_Russian + 35.1% North_Italian @ 3.09
17 68.7% Polish + 31.3% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.1
18 67.8% Russian_Smolensk + 32.2% North_Italian @ 3.11
19 97% Croatian + 3% Yemenite_Jewish @ 3.15
20 97% Croatian + 3% Saudi @ 3.18

[Zrinski]

Don't get me wrong, I am not an expert in this, but isn't a comparison between today's samples irrelevant in the context of a medieval migration (White Croats)?

[Leto]

I think his father is the least 'atypical' for the region

K13:
56.1% Moldavian + 43.9% Ukrainian @ 2.17

K15:
59.5% Moldavian + 40.5% Ukrainian @ 2.83

[vbnetkhio]

boyko
Amerindian 0
Arabian 0
Armenian 1.07
Basque 2.09
Central_African 0
Central_Euro 8.71
East_African 0
East_Asian 0
East_Balkan 8.52
East_Central_Asian 0
East_Central_Euro 17.18
East_Med 4.2
Eastern_Euro 13.04
Fennoscandian 4.1
French 3.22
Iberian 11.3
Indo-Chinese 0
Italian 12.57
Malayan 0
Near_Eastern 0
North_African 0
North_Atlantic 4.69
North_Caucasian 2.5
North_Sea 2.94
Northeast_African 0
Oceanian 0
Omotic 0
Pygmy 0
Siberian 0
South_Asian 0
South_Central_Asian 0
South_Chinese 0
Volga-Ural 2.93
West_African 0
West_Caucasian 0.3
West_Med 0.63

T646810 this guy
Amerindian 0
Arabian 2
Armenian 1.89
Basque 4.63
Central_African 0
Central_Euro 6.59
East_African 0
East_Asian 0
East_Balkan 11.55
East_Central_Asian 0
East_Central_Euro 18.04
East_Med 0
Eastern_Euro 17.71
Fennoscandian 4.96
French 1.52
Iberian 7.81
Indo-Chinese 0
Italian 6.62
Malayan 0
Near_Eastern 0
North_African 0
North_Atlantic 8.56
North_Caucasian 0
North_Sea 4.38
Northeast_African 0
Oceanian 0
Omotic 0
Pygmy 0
Siberian 0
South_Asian 0
South_Central_Asian 0
South_Chinese 0
Volga-Ural 0.64
West_African 0
West_Caucasian 3.11
West_Med 0

T392650 his father
Amerindian 0
Arabian 0.52
Armenian 2.96
Basque 1.38
Central_African 0
Central_Euro 7.94
East_African 0
East_Asian 0
East_Balkan 8.74
East_Central_Asian 0
East_Central_Euro 19.13
East_Med 0
Eastern_Euro 16.1
Fennoscandian 5.87
French 2.49
Iberian 4.35
Indo-Chinese 0
Italian 7.66
Malayan 0.13
Near_Eastern 0
North_African 0
North_Atlantic 3.65
North_Caucasian 0
North_Sea 9.41
Northeast_African 0
Oceanian 0
Omotic 0
Pygmy 0
Siberian 0
South_Asian 0
South_Central_Asian 0
South_Chinese 0
Volga-Ural 4.11
West_African 0
West_Caucasian 2.66
West_Med 2.87

Z762442 his mother
Amerindian 0
Arabian 2.38
Armenian 2
Basque 4.22
Central_African 0
Central_Euro 7.04
East_African 0
East_Asian 0
East_Balkan 9.19
East_Central_Asian 0
East_Central_Euro 18.35
East_Med 0
Eastern_Euro 14.71
Fennoscandian 5.81
French 2.68
Iberian 9.55
Indo-Chinese 0
Italian 9.93
Malayan 0
Near_Eastern 2.58
North_African 0
North_Atlantic 7.24
North_Caucasian 1.15
North_Sea 0.94
Northeast_African 0
Oceanian 0
Omotic 0
Pygmy 0
Siberian 0
South_Asian 0
South_Central_Asian 0
South_Chinese 0
Volga-Ural 1.48
West_African 0
West_Caucasian 0
West_Med 0.75

[Jana]

I think his father is the least 'atypical' for the region

K13:
56.1% Moldavian + 43.9% Ukrainian @ 2.17

K15:
59.5% Moldavian + 40.5% Ukrainian @ 2.83

I don't think they are atypical.