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Thread: Greater old Slavic influence - Montenegrins or N. Macedonians ?

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    with updated ancients averaged spreadsheet as of August.

    Macedonian:

    Code:
    "1. CLOSEST SINGLE ITEM DISTANCE%"
                     Scythian_HUN                  Scythian_MDA 
                        0.4030839                     0.4520465 
         UKR_Chernyakhiv_Shyshaky                    DEU_MA_ACD 
                        0.4826135                     0.4846581 
                           HUN_MA     Iberia_Northeast_c.6CE_PL 
                        0.5076499                     0.5081892 
                          HRV_MBA                 HUN_MA_Szolad 
                        0.5154803                     0.5205793 
                    BGR_Varna_En3           Bell_Beaker_HUN_EBA 
                        0.5232068                     0.5518552 
                     HRV_Early_IA               ITA_Collegno_MA 
                        0.5529375                     0.5620694 
                 HRV_Starcevo_N_o     Iberia_Northeast_c.8-12CE 
                        0.5828456                     0.5916645 
                  Bell_Beaker_CHE                     DEU_Roman 
                        0.5922240                     0.6003893 
      Iberia_Northeast_c.6-8CE_ES            Levant_LBN_MA_Euro 
                        0.6155613                     0.6211872 
                           HUN_BA                       HUN_LBA 
                        0.6241458                     0.6451641 
              Bell_Beaker_Bavaria                CZE_Early_Slav 
                        0.6480129                     0.6709069 
              Levant_LBN_MA_Mixed               Bell_Beaker_CZE 
                        0.6782447                     0.6879820 
                   IND_Roopkund_B                   Yamnaya_BGR 
                        0.6959347                     0.7050968 
                DEU_Alberstedt_LN                 SVK_Poprad_MA 
                        0.7056655                     0.7111972 
             CZE_Hallstatt_Bylany  TZA_Zanzibar_First_Millenium 
                        0.7241256                     0.7242973 
       Iberia_Northeast_Empuries1             Bell_Beaker_FRA_C 
                        0.7261343                     0.7406047 
                  Bell_Beaker_POL           Anatolia_IA_low_res 
                        0.7487996                     0.7579705 
                 HUN_MA_Szolad_o2                       BGR_EBA 
                        0.7622429                     0.7661302 
                           DEU_MA                    England_IA 
                        0.7690356                     0.7860184 
              USA_colonial_period  Bell_Beaker_Mittelelbe-Saale 
                        0.7905735                     0.7926550 
                    England_Roman         Iberia_Central_CA_Stp 
                        0.8031113                     0.8036158 
                  Iberia_North_IA         Iberia_Northeast_RomP 
                        0.8064075                     0.8072831 
                  HUN_Avar_Szolad                        BGR_IA 
                        0.8093470                     0.8105599 
              DEU_Halberstadt_LBA    Iberia_Southeast_c.10-16CE 
                        0.8135470                     0.8181027 
                     Scythian_UKR               CZE_Unetice_EBA 
                        0.8186186                     0.8264070 
        UKR_Chernyakhiv_Legedzine             Bell_Beaker_CZE_o 
                        0.8277382                     0.8322434 
                        Nordic_BA                RUS_Sunghir_MA 
                        0.8323467                     0.8346897 
                  Bell_Beaker_HUN              HUN_MA_Szolad_o1 
                        0.8519041                     0.8593164 
                   Iberia_East_IA                      DEU_MA_o 
                        0.8615187                     0.8636576 
               HUN_Prescythian_IA                        SWE_IA 
                        0.8670645                     0.8733310 
                     Scotland_LBA      Iberia_Southeast_c.5-8CE 
                        0.8741220                     0.8773393 
           Ostrogothic_Crimea_ACD               DEU_Unetice_EBA 
                        0.8818452                     0.8833703 
                    England_Saxon                  Scotland_MBA 
                        0.8872853                     0.8910351 
                  POL_Unetice_EBA                   England_MBA 
                        0.8925848                     0.8927445 
              BGR_Beli_Breyag_EBA               Scotland_CA_EBA 
                        0.8965334                     0.8967299 
                     Wales_CA_EBA               Bell_Beaker_ITA 
                        0.8997021                     0.9016093 
                        Nordic_LN                   England_LBA 
                        0.9031076                     0.9052080 
                   England_CA_EBA               Scythian_MDA_o2 
                        0.9061021                     0.9063220 
           SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna                 UKR_Cimmerian 
                        0.9078049                     0.9114534 
         Iberia_Southeast_c.3-4CE               Bell_Beaker_FRA 
                        0.9151572                     0.9216048 
                           IRL_BA                  HUN_Mako_EBA 
                        0.9297071                     0.9309152 
                      Nordic_MN_B            ITA_Collegno_MA_o1 
                        0.9318707                     0.9351544 
          Iberia_Northwest_CA_Stp                       CZE_EBA 
                        0.9429778                     0.9440618 
                     England_EMBA                SWE_Battle-Axe 
                        0.9461371                     0.9477129 
              Bell_Beaker_England    DEU_BenzigerodeHeimburg_LN 
                        0.9671897                     0.9677212 
                  Iberia_North_BA    POL_Chopice_Wesele_Culture 
                        0.9689763                     0.9860204 
                           NLD_BA                   ARM_Areni_C 
                        0.9869573                     1.0112668 
                  Bell_Beaker_NLD           Iberia_Northeast_BA 
                        1.0128151                     1.0134355 
    Corded_Ware_Proto-Unetice_POL          Bell_Beaker_Scotland 
                        1.0163622                     1.0227084 
            KAZ_Golden_Horde_Euro                      BGR_MP_N 
                        1.0344392                     1.0346019
    Code:
    "distance%=0.5501"
    
             Macedonian
    
    GRC_Peloponnese_N,24.6
    Baltic_EST_BA,13.8
    KAZ_Golden_Horde_Euro,12.6
    Anatolia_Kaman-Kalehoyuk_MLBA_low_res,8.6
    Corded_Ware_Baltic_early,8.2
    DEU_MA_o,7.2
    HUN_Avar_Szolad,7.2
    HUN_MA_Szolad_o1,4.2
    Anatolia_IA_low_res,3.2
    AFG_Darra_i_kur_low_res,2
    Baltic_LVA_BA,1.8
    USA_colonial_period,1.8
    RUS_Srubnaya_o,1.2
    BGR_IA,1
    IRN_Hajji_Firuz_IA,1
    GRC_Minoan_Lassithi,0.8
    Yamnaya_KAZ_Karagash,0.6
    Baltic_LTU_BA,0.2
    Montenegrin:

    Code:
     "1. CLOSEST SINGLE ITEM DISTANCE%"
                     Scythian_HUN      UKR_Chernyakhiv_Shyshaky 
                        0.2958097                     0.3862589 
                       DEU_MA_ACD     Iberia_Northeast_c.6CE_PL 
                        0.3918519                     0.3932918 
                    HUN_MA_Szolad                 BGR_Varna_En3 
                        0.3935125                     0.4127925 
              Bell_Beaker_HUN_EBA                        HUN_MA 
                        0.4231296                     0.4249487 
                  ITA_Collegno_MA            Levant_LBN_MA_Euro 
                        0.4541597                     0.5060781 
                     Scythian_MDA           Bell_Beaker_Bavaria 
                        0.5099487                     0.5125989 
                  Bell_Beaker_CHE                       HUN_LBA 
                        0.5187671                     0.5298517 
                   CZE_Early_Slav                       HRV_MBA 
                        0.5390181                     0.5413585 
                  Bell_Beaker_CZE                 SVK_Poprad_MA 
                        0.5487960                     0.5649614 
      Iberia_Northeast_c.6-8CE_ES                     DEU_Roman 
                        0.5685063                     0.5788136 
                DEU_Alberstedt_LN     Iberia_Northeast_c.8-12CE 
                        0.5819067                     0.5985975 
             CZE_Hallstatt_Bylany                  HRV_Early_IA 
                        0.6006980                     0.6029621 
                  Bell_Beaker_POL             Bell_Beaker_FRA_C 
                        0.6068899                     0.6168951 
       Iberia_Northeast_Empuries1              HUN_MA_Szolad_o2 
                        0.6215676                     0.6292868 
                           DEU_MA              HRV_Starcevo_N_o 
                        0.6296397                     0.6427690 
                       England_IA                   Yamnaya_BGR 
                        0.6446029                     0.6506397 
     Bell_Beaker_Mittelelbe-Saale           USA_colonial_period 
                        0.6554767                     0.6582335 
              DEU_Halberstadt_LBA                 England_Roman 
                        0.6681928                     0.6718680 
                  HUN_Avar_Szolad                        HUN_BA 
                        0.6778196                     0.6789394 
                  CZE_Unetice_EBA     UKR_Chernyakhiv_Legedzine 
                        0.6810356                     0.6874251 
                        Nordic_BA             Bell_Beaker_CZE_o 
                        0.6957056                     0.7020941 
            Iberia_Central_CA_Stp  TZA_Zanzibar_First_Millenium 
                        0.7052039                     0.7162033 
                   RUS_Sunghir_MA                  Scythian_UKR 
                        0.7183257                     0.7224350 
                  Iberia_North_IA                        SWE_IA 
                        0.7334181                     0.7362355 
                  DEU_Unetice_EBA                 England_Saxon 
                        0.7389616                     0.7396708 
            Iberia_Northeast_RomP                  Scotland_LBA 
                        0.7401210                     0.7416587 
                     Scotland_MBA                   England_MBA 
                        0.7473739                     0.7518101 
                  POL_Unetice_EBA        SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna 
                        0.7534293                     0.7539728 
                        Nordic_LN               Scythian_MDA_o2 
                        0.7552677                     0.7558614 
                  Scotland_CA_EBA                   England_LBA 
                        0.7571797                     0.7598361 
                     Wales_CA_EBA                England_CA_EBA 
                        0.7609159                     0.7643845 
              Levant_LBN_MA_Mixed               Bell_Beaker_FRA 
                        0.7676727                     0.7817844 
                           IRL_BA                       CZE_EBA 
                        0.7898546                     0.8042418 
                      Nordic_MN_B            HUN_Prescythian_IA 
                        0.8050865                     0.8128413 
                   Iberia_East_IA                  HUN_Mako_EBA 
                        0.8142437                     0.8196717 
              Bell_Beaker_England                SWE_Battle-Axe 
                        0.8272474                     0.8283200 
                   IND_Roopkund_B                 UKR_Cimmerian 
                        0.8308897                     0.8328432 
                     England_EMBA                       BGR_EBA 
                        0.8345392                     0.8349949 
       DEU_BenzigerodeHeimburg_LN                        NLD_BA 
                        0.8464790                     0.8489483 
              Anatolia_IA_low_res    POL_Chopice_Wesele_Culture 
                        0.8564879                     0.8572784 
          Iberia_Northwest_CA_Stp               Bell_Beaker_NLD 
                        0.8643812                     0.8732604 
       Iberia_Southeast_c.10-16CE               Bell_Beaker_HUN 
                        0.8740990                     0.8801845 
             Bell_Beaker_Scotland Corded_Ware_Proto-Unetice_POL 
                        0.8838145                     0.9101123 
            KAZ_Golden_Horde_Euro        Bell_Beaker_Rhine-Main 
                        0.9164242                     0.9241947 
                           BGR_IA               Iberia_North_BA 
                        0.9269607                     0.9276328 
           KAZ_Maitan_MLBA_Alakul               Bell_Beaker_ITA 
                        0.9384233                     0.9412922 
          Bell_Beaker_England_EBA      Iberia_Southeast_c.5-8CE 
                        0.9413943                     0.9438417 
            UKR_Sredny_Stog_II_En             UKR_Srubnaya_MLBA 
                        0.9504398                     0.9505953 
                  KAZ_Kairan_MLBA           BGR_Beli_Breyag_EBA 
                        0.9524485                     0.9626349 
            KAZ_Ak_Moustafa_MLBA1           Iberia_Northeast_BA 
                        0.9634858                     0.9636675
    Code:
    "distance%=0.3084"
    
             Montenegrin
    
    KAZ_Golden_Horde_Euro,17
    Baltic_EST_MA,14.6
    HUN_Avar_Szolad,10
    MKD_N,7.4
    GRC_Minoan_Lassithi,6
    USA_colonial_period,5.6
    GRC_Minoan_Odigitria_low_res,4.6
    Anatolia_Kumtepe_N,4
    Corded_Ware_Baltic_early,3.8
    SVK_Poprad_MA,3.6
    Anatolia_Isparta_EBA,3.4
    DEU_MA_o,3.4
    Bell_Beaker_CZE_o,3
    Kura-Araxes_ARM_Talin,3
    HRV_Early_IA,2.6
    HUN_MA_Szolad_o1,2.6
    Baltic_LTU_Late_Antiquity_low_res,1.8
    AFG_Darra_i_kur_low_res,0.8
    TKM_Parkhai_LBA,0.8
    TKM_Parkhai_MBA,0.4
    UKR_Cimmerian,0.4
    UKR_Trypillia,0.4
    HRV_MBA,0.2
    KAZ_Oy_Dzhaylau_MLBA_o2,0.2
    VNM_BA_all,0.2
    Yamnaya_KAZ_Karagash,0.2

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    ^ both are closer to Scythian Hungary sample. montenegrin more so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crn Volk View Post
    And Poles?
    Poles are Slavo-Goth mix as evidenced here. Or at least those that you will come across in Bolków* every summer


















    *in Castle Bolków ever summer takes place Gothic music festival. It's really cool, but they invite progressively worse bands every year sadly.

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