South Slavic & neighbours Eurogenes results

[Mingle]

I think Štokavian dialect was created as fussion between Slavic and Vlach groups. Maybe you didn't know but North/Kajkavian Croats call all Štokavians Vlachs, including Croats štokavians.
Also sherperding lifestyle had to be adopted upon interaction with Vlachs.

My opinion is remnants of Vlachs were always minority among migrating SW Slavs but never completely assimilated until later on.

Shepherding is a universal occupation mainly done by highlanders, which Shtokavian-speakers are much more likely to be compared to Kaykavian-speakers who mainly live in the plains.

Though I still agree that Shtokavian-speakers would have the most Vlach influence since their region had the least Slavic influence and highlanders are less likely to pick up foreign (i.e. Slavic) admixture.

[Jana]

Catholic sounding and ikavian surnames exist among Krajina Serbs, like: Ivančić, Jerkan, Stipanović, Sikirica, Bilić, Ivanković, Jurašin, Bilčar, Cvitkovac, Jurković, Marinčić, Marin, Matijaš, Matas, Gambiroža, Šimić, Mišina, Josić etc. That is not conected with Croatians but with the fact that large part of Serbs were Catholics before Sveti Sava and even after him, and with the fact that in some parts of Dalmatia and W. Bosnia Serbs have ikavian reflex of yat (Livno, Duvno, Kupres, Sinj areas, and some villages around Vrlika and Drniš, and few Village near Split and Klis).

Assimilated Croats.

Most of surnames up which I post exist among Dalmatian Serbs, among them there is most "Catholic" sounding/shifted surnames, but I say again that is not conected with Croatians.

You wish.

[Jana]

Shepherding is a universal occupation mainly done by highlanders, which Shtokavian-speakers are much more likely to be compared to Kaykavian-speakers who mainly live in the plains.

Though I still agree that Shtokavian-speakers would have the most Vlach influence since their region had the least Slavic influence and highlanders are less likely to pick up foreign (i.e. Slavic) admixture.

Kajkavian region is hilly in Zagorje or even mountanious like Gorski kotar with plains in Međimurje and Central Croatia. Slavonia which is flatest region in Croatia is Štokavian speaking.



Overall neither Croatia nor Serbia are mountanious countries. Only Montenegro and Bosnia are.

[Pribislav]

Assimilated Croats.



You wish.

For example are these Dalmatian Serb surnames: Šarić, Šarac, Revača, Šorgić, Martić, Đapić, Knežević, Tomić, Vidić, Lukić, Lukač, Prijić, Rašković, Cvijanović, Degenek, Borjan, Trivan, Dragaš, Mirić, Marić, Milić, Jasnić, Končarević, Barišić, Komazec, Sladaković, Alfirević, Bradaš, Šegan, Marjanović, Beara, Beader, Rusić, Stojić sounds Croatian to you?

For me there is nothing Croatian about these surnames.

[Pribislav]

Here is Dalmatian Serb. His surname is Atlagić. Atlagići are from Ostrovica near Benkovac.

K13
1 Baltic 32.56
2 North_Atlantic 28.23
3 West_Med 16.39
4 East_Med 11.98
5 West_Asian 10.14
6 Siberian 0.35
7 Red_Sea 0.2
8 Oceanian 0.15

K15
1 North_Sea 20.12
2 Atlantic 19.22
3 Baltic 17.19
4 Eastern_Euro 15.23
5 West_Med 11.06
6 East_Med 11.01
7 West_Asian 6.17

His position on K15 map.

[Pribislav]

Serb from Ozren (northeastern Bosnia).

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 19.36
2 Atlantic 18.78
3 North_Sea 15.37
4 Eastern_Euro 13.52
5 West_Med 11.59
6 East_Med 9.43
7 West_Asian 7.96
8 Red_Sea 2.22
9 South_Asian 1.23
10 Siberian 0.53

[Ford]

Serb from Ozren (northeastern Bosnia).

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 19.36
2 Atlantic 18.78
3 North_Sea 15.37
4 Eastern_Euro 13.52
5 West_Med 11.59
6 East_Med 9.43
7 West_Asian 7.96
8 Red_Sea 2.22
9 South_Asian 1.23
10 Siberian 0.53

Do you have kit number?

[Pribislav]

Do you have kit number?

No, he posted his results on Poreklo few day ago.

[Dušan]

Serb from Ozren (northeastern Bosnia).

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 19.36
2 Atlantic 18.78
3 North_Sea 15.37
4 Eastern_Euro 13.52
5 West_Med 11.59
6 East_Med 9.43
7 West_Asian 7.96
8 Red_Sea 2.22
9 South_Asian 1.23
10 Siberian 0.53

He is slightly more southern than me, and a very little bit eastern.

[Dick]

He is slightly more southern than me, and a very little bit eastern.

That’s where my father plots but his components are different. Also he is from Pomoravlje central Serbia

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 22.46
2 North_Sea 20.84
3 Atlantic 11.87
4 East_Med 11.76
5 West_Med 11.56
6 Eastern_Euro 10.57
7 West_Asian 7.18
8 Red_Sea 1.62
9 South_Asian 1.18
10 Oceanian 0.59
11 Amerindian 0.38

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Moldavian 6.16
2 Hungarian 7.66
3 Croatian 8.17
4 Serbian 8.49
5 Romanian 9
6 Ukrainian_Lviv 10.95
7 Bulgarian 11.09
8 Austrian 11.57
9 Ukrainian 12.23
10 South_Polish 12.57
11 East_German 13.33
12 Polish 15.49
13 Ukrainian_Belgorod 16.18
14 Russian_Smolensk 16.24
15 Greek_Thessaly 16.62
16 Southwest_Russian 16.64
17 Belorussian 17.91
18 Estonian_Polish 18.35
19 West_German 18.4
20 Finnish 18.61