South Slavic & neighbours Eurogenes results

[Seya]

Lol you re paranoid? Whatever

u keep calling me a nigga'

[CommonSense]

Two Serbs, brother and sister, from Lika. They're paternally from a village called Zalužnica and their surname is Milinović.

Brother:

K13:

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Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 30.76
2 North_Atlantic 22.43
3 East_Med 19.58
4 West_Med 18.57
5 West_Asian 4.52
6 Red_Sea 2.07
7 Siberian 1.05
8 East_Asian 0.79
9 South_Asian 0.11
10 Oceanian 0.09
11 Amerindian 0.02

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Serbian 7.81
2 Romanian 8.48
3 Bulgarian 8.81
4 Moldavian 10.2
5 Croatian 11.8
6 Hungarian 13.24
7 Greek_Thessaly 15.67
8 Austrian 16.71
9 Ukrainian_Lviv 17.52
10 East_German 17.72
11 Ukrainian 18.23
12 South_Polish 18.25
13 North_Italian 19.76
14 Tuscan 20.36
15 Southwest_Russian 21.14
16 Polish 21.44
17 Ukrainian_Belgorod 21.84
18 West_German 22.03
19 French 22.57
20 Italian_Abruzzo 22.83

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 63.5% Ukrainian + 36.5% Algerian_Jewish @ 4.79
2 57.5% Estonian_Polish + 42.5% Algerian_Jewish @ 4.99
3 63.7% Ukrainian + 36.3% Italian_Jewish @ 5.01
4 57.3% Ukrainian + 42.7% Ashkenazi @ 5.06
5 57.7% Estonian_Polish + 42.3% Italian_Jewish @ 5.19
6 56.8% Belorussian + 43.2% Algerian_Jewish @ 5.26
7 60.4% Greek_Thessaly + 39.6% Estonian_Polish @ 5.28
8 52.3% Lithuanian + 47.7% Algerian_Jewish @ 5.29
9 61.1% Greek_Thessaly + 38.9% Belorussian @ 5.37
10 59.5% Polish + 40.5% Algerian_Jewish @ 5.48
11 52.5% Lithuanian + 47.5% Italian_Jewish @ 5.5
12 50.1% Estonian_Polish + 49.9% West_Sicilian @ 5.5
13 51% Estonian_Polish + 49% Ashkenazi @ 5.52
14 65.4% Greek_Thessaly + 34.6% Lithuanian @ 5.53
15 57.6% Russian_Smolensk + 42.4% Algerian_Jewish @ 5.59
16 52.6% Estonian + 47.4% Algerian_Jewish @ 5.6
17 63.7% South_Polish + 36.3% Algerian_Jewish @ 5.64
18 53% Polish + 47% Ashkenazi @ 5.66
19 54.3% Greek_Thessaly + 45.7% Ukrainian @ 5.66
20 57% Belorussian + 43% Italian_Jewish @ 5.7

K15

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Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 19.45
2 East_Med 17.35
3 North_Sea 16.94
4 West_Med 14.23
5 Atlantic 13.81
6 Eastern_Euro 12.27
7 West_Asian 3.6
8 Red_Sea 1.52
9 Southeast_Asian 0.6
10 Siberian 0.23

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Serbian 8.26
2 Romanian 8.51
3 Bulgarian 8.97
4 Moldavian 10.46
5 Croatian 11.63
6 Hungarian 12.05
7 Austrian 13.32
8 Greek_Thessaly 13.39
9 Greek 14.6
10 Ukrainian_Lviv 16.28
11 East_German 16.77
12 Ukrainian 16.88
13 South_Polish 17.07
14 North_Italian 17.24
15 Tuscan 17.34
16 Ashkenazi 19.31
17 Polish 19.35
18 Italian_Abruzzo 19.7
19 Russian_Smolensk 19.86
20 Central_Greek 19.99

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 62.1% Ukrainian + 37.9% Algerian_Jewish @ 4.77
2 61.4% Ukrainian + 38.6% Italian_Jewish @ 5.14
3 63.2% Ukrainian_Lviv + 36.8% Algerian_Jewish @ 5.43
4 63.2% Greek_Thessaly + 36.8% Estonian_Polish @ 5.48
5 63% Greek_Thessaly + 37% Belorussian @ 5.5
6 66.2% Greek_Thessaly + 33.8% Lithuanian @ 5.53
7 62% South_Polish + 38% Algerian_Jewish @ 5.64
8 60.4% Greek_Thessaly + 39.6% Polish @ 5.65
9 54.8% Ukrainian + 45.2% West_Sicilian @ 5.66
10 65.5% Greek_Thessaly + 34.5% Estonian @ 5.71
11 56.7% Greek_Thessaly + 43.3% Ukrainian @ 5.72
12 54.2% Greek + 45.8% Ukrainian @ 5.73
13 63.1% Greek + 36.9% Estonian @ 5.78
14 58.5% Ukrainian + 41.5% South_Italian @ 5.79
15 58.8% Polish + 41.2% Algerian_Jewish @ 5.8
16 53.4% Estonian + 46.6% Algerian_Jewish @ 5.8
17 62.6% Ukrainian_Lviv + 37.4% Italian_Jewish @ 5.83
18 62.7% Ukrainian + 37.3% Sephardic_Jewish @ 5.9
19 61.3% South_Polish + 38.7% Italian_Jewish @ 5.96
20 57.9% Polish + 42.1% Italian_Jewish @ 5.99

Sister:

K13

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Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 30.56
2 North_Atlantic 23.96
3 East_Med 19.15
4 West_Med 15.48
5 West_Asian 6.33
6 Siberian 1.68
7 Red_Sea 1.36
8 Amerindian 1
9 Northeast_African 0.26
10 East_Asian 0.24

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Serbian 5.95
2 Romanian 7.2
3 Bulgarian 8.24
4 Moldavian 8.61
5 Croatian 10.32
6 Hungarian 10.96
7 Austrian 14.99
8 Greek_Thessaly 16.08
9 East_German 16.13
10 Ukrainian_Lviv 16.18
11 South_Polish 16.68
12 Ukrainian 16.99
13 Southwest_Russian 19.65
14 Polish 20.1
15 North_Italian 20.23
16 Ukrainian_Belgorod 20.29
17 West_German 20.36
18 Tuscan 20.81
19 French 21.72
20 Russian_Smolensk 21.83

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 59.2% Ukrainian + 40.8% Ashkenazi @ 2.99
2 65.4% Ukrainian + 34.6% Italian_Jewish @ 3.06
3 59.2% Estonian_Polish + 40.8% Italian_Jewish @ 3.26
4 59.7% South_Polish + 40.3% Ashkenazi @ 3.35
5 52.1% Ashkenazi + 47.9% Estonian @ 3.42
6 55% Polish + 45% Ashkenazi @ 3.44
7 58.6% Greek_Thessaly + 41.4% Belorussian @ 3.53
8 58.7% Belorussian + 41.3% Italian_Jewish @ 3.54
9 54% Lithuanian + 46% Italian_Jewish @ 3.58
10 65.5% Ukrainian + 34.5% Algerian_Jewish @ 3.62
11 54.5% Estonian + 45.5% Italian_Jewish @ 3.63
12 52.8% Estonian_Polish + 47.2% Ashkenazi @ 3.63
13 54.5% Estonian + 45.5% Algerian_Jewish @ 3.66
14 58% Greek_Thessaly + 42% Estonian_Polish @ 3.74
15 62.7% Greek_Thessaly + 37.3% Estonian @ 3.74
16 52.2% Belorussian + 47.8% Ashkenazi @ 3.78
17 55% Belorussian + 45% South_Italian @ 3.78
18 54.8% Southwest_Russian + 45.2% West_Sicilian @ 3.82
19 61.5% Polish + 38.5% Italian_Jewish @ 3.83
20 66% South_Polish + 34% Algerian_Jewish @ 3.83

K15

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Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 20.53
2 Atlantic 20.26
3 East_Med 15.16
4 Eastern_Euro 12.17
5 North_Sea 12.03
6 West_Med 10.3
7 West_Asian 6.34
8 Red_Sea 1.32
9 Siberian 1
10 Amerindian 0.86
11 Northeast_African 0.05

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Romanian 8.28
2 Bulgarian 8.29
3 Serbian 8.79
4 Croatian 10.18
5 Austrian 10.62
6 Moldavian 10.95
7 Hungarian 12.67
8 Greek 15.01
9 South_Polish 16.01
10 Greek_Thessaly 16.31
11 Ukrainian_Lviv 16.32
12 East_German 16.54
13 Ukrainian 17.02
14 Russian_Smolensk 17.36
15 Polish 17.88
16 North_Italian 18.1
17 Ukrainian_Belgorod 18.17
18 Tuscan 18.36
19 Southwest_Russian 18.52
20 Belorussian 19.57

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 54.7% Russian_Smolensk + 45.3% West_Sicilian @ 4.23
2 51.5% Belorussian + 48.5% West_Sicilian @ 4.27
3 52.8% West_Sicilian + 47.2% Lithuanian @ 4.36
4 57.1% Greek + 42.9% Belorussian @ 4.41
5 51.4% Estonian_Polish + 48.6% West_Sicilian @ 4.41
6 53.9% Greek + 46.1% Russian_Smolensk @ 4.48
7 57.2% Greek + 42.8% Estonian_Polish @ 4.52
8 62.7% Russian_Smolensk + 37.3% Algerian_Jewish @ 4.86
9 55.4% Estonian_Polish + 44.6% South_Italian @ 4.86
10 58.7% Russian_Smolensk + 41.3% South_Italian @ 4.89
11 61.4% Greek + 38.6% Lithuanian @ 4.92
12 54.8% Greek + 45.2% Polish @ 4.94
13 55.5% Belorussian + 44.5% South_Italian @ 4.98
14 53% Southwest_Russian + 47% West_Sicilian @ 5.03
15 62.3% Russian_Smolensk + 37.7% Sephardic_Jewish @ 5.08
16 62.2% Russian_Smolensk + 37.8% Italian_Jewish @ 5.21
17 50.6% Estonian_Polish + 49.4% Italian_Abruzzo @ 5.27
18 53.6% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 46.4% West_Sicilian @ 5.3
19 50.8% Belorussian + 49.2% Italian_Abruzzo @ 5.33
20 59.7% Belorussian + 40.3% Algerian_Jewish @ 5.34

[Aspirin]

Aspirin is also ashamed of his Vlach-ness but at least doesn't troll randomly and looks for actual arguments.

Bullshit, I just don't belive what people from Moldova are so Balkanoids genetically like Wallachians. Here happend plenty of interaction with Eastern Slavs since Middle Ages (I don't speak about recent colonisations in the territories annexed from Moldova by Russia and Austria), and to belive what this never had any effect on today Moldavians is laughlable. I have relatives in my family who looks totally Eastern Euro and I don't know about any Russian or Ukrainian origins, some of them have ancestry from today Romania (Iași county), were people are very similar in terms of look.

[WeirdLookingFellow]

can i larp as Roman? can i? can i?

Yes, as a Hun-Avar-Trojan noble.

Never said you weren't Romanian, I just get the feeling you identify more as a Slav. Nothing wrong with that. As to Nurzat, he constantly says "we Romanians" followed by some negative BS, maybe that is why people responded. Ever thought of that? Don't play dumb.

When you say Romanian larp as Romans what you really mean is "where do these uppity Romanians get off speaking a Romance language, why can't they speak some shitty sounding Slavic gibberish like the rest of us Eastern Euro?". Because we have good taste, that is why.

I do identify more as a Slav, as a Balkan Slav to be specific. By Roman larping I mean thinking we are the courageous descendants of legions that actually held the place for some time and will absolutely refuse to believe that at some point or more times in history, this place was recolonized with other populations from the South/South-West; that the Slavic influence was "minimal", or "only in language". They believe the Re-latinization of the language in the 19th century was "minimal".

There is no genetic anthropology professor in Romania, nor any Institute; you go to the faculty of history and they're still debating there whether "brad" and "bucurie" are Albanian in origin or whether Dacians really streteched until Bavaria and, hence, we should demand land or something. Some go as far as to think that the Moravian Vlachs were there since ancient times, when it's known they settled somewhere in medieval times, although their transhumance probably made them aware of the place.

Nobody talks here about genetics and hence there is no incentive to get more samples from Romania; they just recently found a ditch with some people that were probably executed and they were mercenaries, even that was in Dobrogea where there's more international interest.

There's not a single Romanian here that far up the Consul's ass. I have no qualms against the Romanian language apart from it's forced re-latinization. Re-latinization means reinforcing the Romance aspect, not that Romanian was a Slavic language turned Romance.

[WeirdLookingFellow]

Bullshit, I just don't belive what people from Moldova are so Balkanoids genetically like Wallachians. Here happend plenty of interaction with Eastern Slavs since Middle Ages (I don't speak about recent colonisations in the territories annexed from Moldova by Russia and Austria), and to belive what this never had any effect on today Moldavians is laughlable. I have relatives in my family who looks totally Eastern Euro and I don't know about any Russian or Ukrainian origins, some of them have ancestry from today Romania (Iași county), were people are very similar in terms of look.

Being somewhat more northern than Wallachians still keeps you and I in deep Balkan territory and though a 2D PCA is not the best to see it, it's clear how we are some Paleo-Balkan people which plotted between Greeks and Italians that got pulled by Slavs.

[Aspirin]

Being somewhat more northern than Wallachians still keeps you and I in deep Balkan territory and though a 2D PCA is not the best to see it, it's clear how we are some Paleo-Balkan people which plotted between Greeks and Italians that got pulled by Slavs.

Don't exist any specific Balkan cluster, and I am for sure not in "deep" Balkan territory.

[Jana]

Ask for his K36 (its good for plotting and vbnetkhio has a K36 plot).

Amerindian -
Arabian -
Armenian 1.80 Pct
Basque -
Central_African -
Central_Euro 4.40 Pct
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 5.09 Pct
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 19.13 Pct
East_Med 0.13 Pct
Eastern_Euro 8.29 Pct
Fennoscandian 6.71 Pct
French 6.86 Pct
Iberian 10.82 Pct
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 20.17 Pct
Malayan -
Near_Eastern 0.12 Pct
North_African -
North_Atlantic 4.24 Pct
North_Caucasian 7.61 Pct
North_Sea -
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy 0.22 Pct
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian -
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural -
West_African -
West_Caucasian -
West_Med 4.33 Pct

I hope he plots him

[Jana]

Bullshit, I just don't belive what people from Moldova are so Balkanoids genetically like Wallachians. Here happend plenty of interaction with Eastern Slavs since Middle Ages (I don't speak about recent colonisations in the territories annexed from Moldova by Russia and Austria), and to belive what this never had any effect on today Moldavians is laughlable. I have relatives in my family who looks totally Eastern Euro and I don't know about any Russian or Ukrainian origins, some of them have ancestry from today Romania (Iași county), were people are very similar in terms of look.

Your father looks more Eastern European or Slavic proper than any member of my immediate family.

[vbnetkhio]

Amerindian -

I hope he plots him

[Jana]

Thanks!