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    Quote Originally Posted by Cristiano viejo View Post
    As Spaniard you know perfectly Jews are seen as non-whites here in Spain. And so any person from the Middle East is seen too.
    The problem that I see in Spain, that spaniards thinks that Middle Eastern People are the same in a whole in relation to North African & Red Sea People that they are much darker in comparassion with People around Caucasus, maybe because they are heavly mixed with sub-saharan & east african people. People from Caucasus in my opinion, are middle eastern, but not in the sense of spaniard thinking.

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    People with majority white ancestry if they look white and dont identify as minority and dont have a history of discrimination are white to me. That is my definition as well as caucasians from western asia and northern africa. That is the most common politically correct american definition. The definition of Nazis doesnt matter. So jews fall under the umbrella white american.
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    There is a decent difference many Western Ashkenazim cluster closer to Sephardi's then to Eastern Ashkenazim I think the main difference is the Eastern one have a Slavic/Eastern Euro difference. While we dont because we never lived in Eastern Europe

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    If they don't have J1 they are just assimilated
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    Both, seeing as they're a mix of South/Central European and Levantine. Regardless of the populations they're comprised of they overall plot closest to Southern Italians/Greek Islanders, from there it's all subjective...

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    Quote Originally Posted by El_Abominacion View Post
    Both, seeing as they're a mix of South/Central European and Levantine. Regardless of the populations they're comprised of they overall plot closest to Southern Italians/Greek Islanders, from there it's all subjective...
    Greek Islanders and South Italians aren't genetically Middle Eastern people
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    yes (except khazar, that's a myth)

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    Probably more European due to mixing...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pine View Post
    Ashkenazi Jews aren't half Eastern European if that's what you're implying. A very conservative range for the Eastern European component is 5-25%, with the upper end of the range being very unlikely. The main European component is southern. The most common model is about 1/2 Levantine, 3/8 South Euro, 1/8 East Euro.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Unknown European View Post
    50% Near East- Levant mostly
    40% South Euro/Med Euro- Italy and Greece mostly
    10% Host countries/North Euro- France, Germany, Czechia, Poland, Russia, Ukraine, Belarus, Lithuania, Hungary, Slovakia, Romania, Latvia

    These percents have about a 5% range for most Ashkenazi, and an about 10% range for outliers

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