Native americans ideology.

[Lasituacion]

I dunno how are the Natives, (if you live in the Americas) from your country.
But somehow they are very similar.

Im sometimes pissed off at their bullshit. Telling stuff like without Europeans these land would have been paradise, Europeans brought diseases, bla bla.

They always worship their legendary past of, how tough and well-skilled warriors they used to be, and social and economic system but the present shows all the opposite. I see indios here getting drunk, having 8 kids, asking for money on the streets, and don't see any intellecualism at all.
Blaming the spaniards for all their shitty present.pretty much hating europeans, but their painting of their warriors show an pred euro guy with some aztec custom.

But i've never seen a Indio being gratefull at Europeans to bring technology, Medicines, religion, and our actual present.

What do you guys think ?

[Gamera]

But i've never seen a Indio being gratefull at Europeans to bring technology, Medicines, religion, and our actual present.

Because they were living quite fine without that. They didn't know any better, I don't see why they should be grateful. If Arabs would have colonized Europe and then complained that native Europeans weren't grateful for the medicine, new religion and technology they would have brought them (hypothetically), I would think the same.

Still, I don't think indios should hate Europeans or resent them either. They need to look into the future.

What you describe are not really proper indios. They are urbanized amerindians who now live in the city and have lost contact of their original culture.

Actual amerindians, who live in the highlands and still preserve their culture, are fine and largely lack of resentment towards Europeans, despite being abused for centuries. They are also quite civilized, and they keep their own cities and towns very clean and live harmoniously with nature, one can see the contrast of towns and cities of the highlands with Lima. I don't know how it is in Mexico, where I presume you're from.

What they resent though is still the lack of support they get from the state, which is ruled mostly by whites, in Latin America.

[Lasituacion]

Because they were living quite fine without that. They didn't know any better, I don't see why they should be grateful. If Arabs would have colonized Europe and then complained that native Europeans weren't grateful for the medicine, new religion and technology they would have brought them (hypothetically), I would think the same.

Still, I don't think indios should hate Europeans or resent them either. They need to look into the future.

What you describe are not really proper indios. They are urbanized amerindians who now live in the city and have lost contact of their original culture. Actual amerindians, who live in the highlands and still preserve their culture, are fine and largely lack of resentment towards Europeans, despite being abused for centuries. What they resent though is still the lack of support they get from the state, which is ruled mostly by whites, in Latin America.

i dunno about indios from peru.

But where i live they are just the worst.

they are drinkin they freak out and all of a sudden they take out their machetes and guns and start killing each other.

some joker from other forum told me indios without europeans should have evolved into something rational.

But its just indio.centrism lol

[Gamera]

i dunno about indios from peru.

But where i live they are just the worst.

they are drinkin they freak out and all of a sudden they take out their machetes and guns and start killing each other.

some joker from other forum told me indios without europeans should have evolved into something rational.

But its just indio.centrism lol

As I said, those are not proper Native Americans which you're describing. They're the result of the degeneration of their culture in the city. That wouldn't have happened without colonization obviously, but it was deemed to happen sooner or later. Had it not happened, they would have just simply been... native americans.

Human beings are rational, I don't understand how can any race evolve to that.

[Lasituacion]

100 years ago we were not rational at all. In europe someone who was suspected to be a witch was burned alive. So believe me evolution is here.

Indians in MesoAmerica enjoyed sodomy,human sacrifices, slavery, canibalism.

They were somehow behind european evolution

[Lasituacion]

Actually one book says that Hernan Cortez, brought a priest to cristianize Indians due their savage activities (sodomy,canibalism,etc)

[Gamera]

100 years ago we were not rational at all. In europe someone who suspected was a witch was burned alive. So believe me evolution is here.

Indians in MesoAmerica enjoyed sodomy,human sacrifices, slavery, canibalism.

They we're somehow behind european evolution

That's why rationality is relative.

Indians in MesoAmerica enjoyed sodomy,human sacrifices, slavery, canibalism.

They were somehow behind european evolution

Yes, 500 years ago.

[Grumpy Cat]

Im sometimes pissed off at their bullshit. Telling stuff like without Europeans these land would have been paradise, Europeans brought diseases, bla bla.

I've actually never heard this coming from a Native, but most often from cultural Marxist inclined whites, as well as whiny blacks and Middle Easterners who for some reason like to whine on behalf of First Nations, which is actually quite degrading to them.

[Lasituacion]

500 years after. They burn alive thiefs. As their unusual way of punishment

[Lasituacion]

I've actually never heard this coming from a Native, but most often from cultural Marxist inclined whites, as well as whiny blacks and Middle Easterners who for some reason like to whine on behalf of First Nations, which is actually quite degrading to them.

You have native american friends?