In 2017 Italy was one of the largest EU net contributors

[savvas]

To the fact that the figures you quote are totally flawed and unreliable.
Official European Commission stats are quite different.

Nope, stats are right, annoying frog.
From the official EU site,

2017 Italy contributions = € 2,205,000,000 (€ 12,000,000,000 - € 9,795,000,000)
https://europa.eu/european-union/abo...tries/italy_en

2017 France contributions = € 2,729,000,000 (€ 16,234,000,000 - € 13,505,000,000)
https://europa.eu/european-union/abo...ries/france_en

Per capita is €36 vs €41.

[savvas]

I am very surprised, because I had no idea that Italy was a net contributor of such magnitude. Italy contributes almost the same as France, but its political importance is infinitely inferior. To what is owed this?

Italy is a Western European country, you absolute nigger. It shouldn't surprise you that we pay like a Western European country. The real surprise are Western European countries (on paper) like yours, Spain and Ireland leeching off the EU since their accession. The Atlantic facade, they call it...

http://www.money-go-round.eu/Country.aspx?id=PT
http://www.money-go-round.eu/Country.aspx?id=ES
http://www.money-go-round.eu/Country.aspx?id=IE

[Ouistreham]

Italy is a Western European country, you absolute nigger. It shouldn't surprise you that we pay like a Western European country. The real surprise are Western European countries (on paper) like yours, Spain and Ireland leeching off the EU since their accession. The Atlantic facade, they call it...

http://www.money-go-round.eu/Country.aspx?id=PT
http://www.money-go-round.eu/Country.aspx?id=ES
http://www.money-go-round.eu/Country.aspx?id=IE

savvas, thanks for proving my point.
From the links you gave:
"In 2016 the taxpayers of Italy contributed to the European Union 78 euros per head over what they received. "
http://www.money-go-round.eu/Country.aspx?id=IT

"In 2016 the taxpayers of France contributed to the European Union 163 euros per head over what they received."
http://www.money-go-round.eu/Country.aspx?id=FR

France — Net contribution to the EU : EUR 10,907.21 mil.
Italy — Net contribution to the EU : EUR 4,733.54 mil.

France being definitely wealthier than Italy, it's only justice that we contribute considerably more.

I am very surprised, because I had no idea that Italy was a net contributor of such magnitude. Italy contributes almost the same as France

No: Italy's net contribution is less than half of what France pays to the bloody EU.

That being said it's indeed shocking that Ireland, by far the EU country with the highest income per capita, pays almost nothing.
And Spain, whose GDP/par capita PPP is now higher than poor Italy, only pays a tiny fraction of the Italian contribution.

[MinervaItalica]

France has a higher GDP because of this woman who keeps tourism high.

Spoiler!

That being said it's indeed shocking that Ireland, by far the EU country with the highest income per capita, pays almost nothing.
And Spain, whose GDP/par capita PPP is now higher than poor Italy, only pays a tiny fraction of the Italian contribution.

I have have my doubts Spain being wealthier that Italy when Italy is the third/fourth economic power in EU and eight in the world but who knows, perhaps is because they are intelligent and keep their money for themself instead wasting it for this grottesque monster/Fourth Reich/FrancoGermanic alliance called EU.

Just for you to note: France has a quite high public dept but still enjoy more benefits from the EU but no, obviously no one care, we only know Italy for its debt and instead we give a lot of money while getting nothing.

[Ouistreham]

I have have my doubts Spain being wealthier that Italy

In absolute terms, the Italian economy is more powerful than Spain's because Italy is more populated (over 60 million people, less than 50 million in Spain).
But in terms of GDP per capita Spain is now slightly ahead (albeit by a narrow margin):
$38,400 in Spain
$38,200 in Italy
https://www.cia.gov/library/publicat...s/211rank.html

France still enjoy more benefits from the EU

No. French net contribution to the EU budget is more than twice higher than the Italian one.

On the other hand, the average Spaniard, though being slightly wealthier than the average Italian, receives 8 euros per head over what they contributed, whilst the Italian contributes to the European Union 78 euros per head over what they received.
I can agree this sounds somewhat unfair, but this is an effect of funding programs (in infrastructures) that were started decades ago.

http://www.money-go-round.eu/Country.aspx?id=ES

[Tietar]

On the other hand, the average Spaniard, though being slightly wealthier than the average Italian, receives 8 euros per head over what they contributed, whilst the Italian contributes to the European Union 78 euros per head over what they received.
I can agree this sounds somewhat unfair, but this is an effect of funding programs (in infrastructures) that were started decades ago.

I doubt this is due to infrastructure funding when Spain is in the world top for years

[MinervaItalica]

In absolute terms, the Italian economy is more powerful than Spain's because Italy is more populated (over 60 million people, less than 50 million in Spain).

And Germany has 80 million yet still ahead of Brazil...
Same for UK. This doesnt explain your population logic.

Besides, there is not a big hole between Spain and Italy population.

[Mortimer]

This is somewhat funny how you guys argue who is richer

[GiCa]

Wanna we talk about the "Spread" ?

The fake scam market index plotted on Germany..???

The fattass Merkel managed to purposely higher the Italian spread on Germany.. By fakenly manipulate it to impose us her financer Rothschild friend Mari Monti who destroyed Italy to give money yo the EU... Ooop eu-gernamy-france


Next elections Italians will vote en masse Salvini end lega nord with the aim of destroying the EU. I will thrn celebrate if it happens.