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    Quote Originally Posted by JosephK View Post
    Unfortunately in order to stay alive in the US, the Catholic Church panders to Latinos. And Latinos give much less to the Church so it can barely stay alive, unlike when Eastern and Southern European migrants made the local Churches the places of awe and devotion that they were.
    Don't worry, thankfully Latinos are leaving the Catholic church in droves, preferring genuine faith in God, and joining Pentecostal churches en masse in countries like Brazil and elsewhere. This is also beginning to impact the US and Mexican Hispanic populations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JosephK View Post
    Unfortunately in order to stay alive in the US, the Catholic Church panders to Latinos. And Latinos give much less to the Church so it can barely stay alive, unlike when Eastern and Southern European migrants made the local Churches the places of awe and devotion that they were.
    But the third World is a huge growth market for the catholic Church. Those people multiply like rabbits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harkonnen View Post
    But the third World is a huge growth market for the catholic Church. Those people multiply like rabbits.
    yeah, but they don't have or give the money to sustain it...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    Don't worry, thankfully Latinos are leaving the Catholic church in droves, preferring genuine faith in God, and joining Pentecostal churches en masse in countries like Brazil and elsewhere. This is also beginning to impact the US and Mexican Hispanic populations.
    It's unfortunate but true... can you imagine Latino communities without even the guiding principles of The Church!?!?
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    Quote Originally Posted by JosephK View Post
    yeah, but they don't have or give the money to sustain it...
    They can't sustain multiply-rate? Interesting theory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harkonnen View Post
    They can't sustain multiply-rate? Interesting theory.
    HA! I mean they can't sustain The Church... They're takers not givers...
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    Quote Originally Posted by JosephK View Post
    HA! I mean they can't sustain The Church... They're takers not givers...
    God does not love much those poor souls who don't have much money to give to him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PrettyFarFromOkay View Post
    Yes. I’ve heard it called the “Lavender Mafia”— the cabal of homosexual bishops and priests who constantly try to cover for each other, even at the highest levels of Church leadership, all the way up to the College of Cardinals.

    The priest abuse scandal has been massively (and I think intentionally) misrepresented by the media. The priesthood doesn’t have a pedophile problem, it has a gay problem. The priests who abused (primarily teenaged) boys were not the conservative and traditional priests that the media wants to assign blame to, but the gay and liberal priests that the media will praise in other contexts as great and necessary reformers. It’s a gross misrepresentation that the vast majority of people, even Catholics, have bought into.
    You hit the nail on the head there. Interestingly, there has been a study about the correlation between homosexual clergy and sex abuse, done by a priest. This study was done in the US, so it can't be generalised to the entire population of priests in the world.

    Church Miliant is an organisation which describes itself as:

    ChurchMilitant.com is a Catholic apostolate based in the metro Detroit, MI area that is dedicated to spreading the Catholic faith through the use of digital media. We aim to provide everyone with means to increase their personal holiness through catechesis and evangelization about the truth of the Christian faith. We also aim to convert non-Catholics to the faith founded personally by Jesus Christ, and strengthen the faith of existing Catholics. Our hope is to achieve this by bringing Jesus Christ to the internet through the use of digital media.

    What I appreciate about Church Militant is that it is a Catholic organisation looking at the problems within the Catholic Church and they're not afraid to be self-critical.

    If you're interested in the findings of the study you're welcome to watch this video.


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    What I want to add to my previous post is that Fr Sullins addresses the issue of married clergy. If the abuse problem is homosexual, as his study establishes, then allowing marriage will not solve the problem. Gay priests wouldn't get married anyway, which negates the argument that allowing marriage will decrease abuse.

    You might also find this video interesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kazimiera View Post
    What I want to add to my previous post is that Fr Sullins addresses the issue of married clergy. If the abuse problem is homosexual, as his study establishes, then allowing marriage will not solve the problem. Gay priests wouldn't get married anyway, which negates the argument that allowing marriage will decrease abuse.

    You might also find this video interesting.

    Thanks for the suggestions! I’m already a Church Militant fan, but I haven’t seen these particular videos. Patrick Coffin on youtube is another guy who talks about this.

    I think the litmus test for a good Catholic commentator is whether they talk about the influence of the Lavender Mafia. If they don’t, they’re missing one of the biggest issues in Church today, and it’s impossible to understand the abuse scandal without understanding how homosexuality works within the priesthood.

    Thankfully, the percentage of gay priests has been dropping, as have incidents of abuse, which are no where near where they were in the 60s, 70s and 80s. But the media will probably keep putting forward their deceptive narrative on the scandal, for as long as people will buy it and not look deeper into who was really doing the abuse.

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