The Etruscan Civilization in Italy

[Samnium]

The more famous example of etruscan crafting skills was the bucchero, the famous black ceramics that have been found in many tombs.

And for the problem of the origins I guess it's an useless one like many archaeologists and historians do think today. I think it's more interesting to try to break out the etruscan language than to try to give to the etruscans a pseudo-pelasgian origine (even if it's very unlikely), copying the ancient historians who tried to prove this because they wanted that etruscans were somewhat part of the greek world...

[Samnium]

North Italian/Iberian-like.

Not at all iberian, if I remind etruscan DNA that was extracted show affinity with anatolian populations (maybe it was the oriental groups that I've mentioned).

If you see the etruscan paintings they look very anatolian even if they also can look somewhat italian.

[Crimson Winds]

Not at all iberian, if I remind etruscan DNA that was extracted show affinity with anatolian populations (maybe it was the oriental groups that I've mentioned).

If you see the etruscan paintings they look very anatolian even if they also can look somewhat italian.

Anatolians were also Italian like by that time additional Levantine+CHG As I know.

[MinervaItalica]

If you see the etruscan paintings they look very anatolian even if they also can look somewhat italian.

Do they? I don't think so, perhaps they have both Greek influence.

Post some Anatolian painting for comparison.

[Samnium]

Do they? I don't think so, perhaps they have both Greek influence.

Post some Anatolian painting for comparison.

Etruscan :

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Anatolian :
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They are not 100% the same however.

[Samnium]

I don't remember any ancient anatolian painting that is preserved like those of Tarquinia, mostly sculptures or bas-reliefs.

[MinervaItalica]

They are not 100% the same however.

Not 100% the same? They are completely different judging from the ones you posted. Costumes also completely different.

If something connects Etruscans to Anatolians that thing is perhaps the Greek world and influence.

This is an example of Anatolian cave painting:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/fotogezi/3039377876/

[Token]

Not at all iberian, if I remind etruscan DNA that was extracted show affinity with anatolian populations (maybe it was the oriental groups that I've mentioned).

If you see the etruscan paintings they look very anatolian even if they also can look somewhat italian.

Don't start making things up, Etruscans had zero Anatolian admixture. They sit on a cline between Sardinians and Northwest Europeans and plot just south of Iberians.

[Samnium]

Not 100% the same? They are completely different judging from the ones you posted. Costumes also completely different.

If something connects Etruscans to Anatolians that thing is perhaps the Greek world and influence.

This is an example of Anatolian cave painting:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/fotogezi/3039377876/

No, they are not completely different, in fact etruscan paintings showed very anatolian faces, the Sarcophage of Spouses (sacorphago dei spozi) show also that.

We are talking about the genetics and their genotype, etruscan civilization has laid his foundations upon the Villanovian civilization however this not means that etruscans were entirely autochtonous.

The anatolian paintings that you have sent are way too small and blurred to see any facial features (I have already seen this paintings).

[Samnium]

Don't start making things up, Etruscans had zero Anatolian admixture. They sit on a cline between Sardinians and Northwest Europeans and plot just south of Iberians.

Well some recent studies show the complete opposite.

https://journals.plos.org/plosone/ar...l.pone.0119242

Mitogenomes of recent Near East origin in present-day Tuscans do not show local or regional variation. This points to a demographic scenario that is compatible with a recent arrival of Near Easterners to this region in Italy with no founder events or bottlenecks

https://journals.plos.org/plosone/ar...l.pone.0192567
The overall analysis clearly highlights some peculiarities in the mtDNA gene pool of some Podolian breeds. In particular, a principal component analysis point to a genetic proximity between five breeds (Chianina, Marchigiana, Maremmana, Podolica Italiana and Romagnola) reared in Central Italy and the Turkish Grey. We here propose the suggestive hypothesis of a dual ancestral contribution to the present gene pool of Podolian breeds, one deriving from Eastern European cattle; the other arising from the arrival of Middle Eastern cattle into Central Italy through a different route, perhaps by sea, ferried by Etruscan boats. The historical migration of Podolian cattle from North Eastern Europe towards Italy has not cancelled the mtDNA footprints of this previous ancient migration

Those cattle are bred since the medieval time [29] in an area that largely overlaps with the ancient territory of Etruria. This finding further supports and extends another hypothesis, according to which at least part of the maternal ancestry of those breeds could be related to the Etruscan migration from Lydia, a region on the south-western coast of ancient Anatolia [9]; [35]; [36], [37]; [38].

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25230205

What studies support your opinion that etruscans were near iberians ? And that they had not even a drop of anatolian blood ?