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    Respect to Russia for their huge contributions during WW2.

    All hail Putin!


    5:55 onwards!




    Putin playing the English football anthem of 'Three Lions' on the piano.





    English singer (and mother of six boys) Sophie Ellis Bextor said she loves spending time in Russia. She loves singing in front of her Russian fan audiences and she's been trying to learn Russian. I also think Russian is a beautiful language and I love Russian accents a lot. Whenever President Putin speaks in English (and other languages too,) I can't help by admire his beautiful Russian accent.
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    Sorry, Lily, but only weak people worship tyrants. I hold you to be stronger than that.



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    Quote Originally Posted by michal3141 View Post
    They divided us over 1000 years ago. Enforced different alphabets, religions and then enslaved.
    It's hard to unite after this but I agree we should build bridges rather than fight for foreign interests.
    Religion was a big factor for a polish–lithuanian–muscovite commonwealth don't take place. Fortunately, Christianity has been losing vigor. More and more Poles and Russians are turning to the old gods.

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    Each year, Russia holds an annual Victory Day parade in Red Square to celebrate and remember the Russian troops contributions during WW2.




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    Quote Originally Posted by ♥ Lily ♥ View Post
    One of the few good sides with Putin is that he is training judo (staying fit). He started training Sambo at 14 years old (Russians own self defense system)...and judo just later. I started karate at age of 8 and Jiujitsu at age of 9. Today kids starts those even younger than me.

    As junior age Putin succeed someways in competitions (inside of Sovjet Union). Being national-level competitor. All that was still over 40 - 50 years ago. Putin is old now. Black belt ranks higher than ~4th degree or so are generally not based on “performance” or testing; they’re more honorary. Very true with him too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarmatian View Post
    Та то все хуйня, страна ведь таки рухнула. Не помогли эти реформы, а некоторые считают что наоборот даже ускорили процесс.



    А вот на этом они оба и лажанулись нехило. Все хотели из русского общинного крестьянина сделать фермера по западному образцу. Не понимали, сердешные, что в условиях России только крупное общинное земледелие имеет смысл, любой мелкий собственник рано или поздно разорится. Что, кстати, активно доказывают даже современные фермеры.

    Столько народу в этих переселениях померло, что никто и не считал.Но народ такое на забывает. Ты думаешь эсэры, самые близкие к крестьянству революционеры, просто так за Столыпиным несколько лет охотились?
    Цифры можно по погибшим в ходе переселения?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarmatian View Post
    No no no. I'm very specific in what I say. I won't accept the claim of 100 millions killed by Communism until it's proven. All these things you say - how the hell they were connected to Communism?
    "According to R. J. Rummel's book Death by Government (1994), about 110 million people, foreign and domestic, were killed by communist democide from 1900 to 1987.[31] In 1993, Rummel wrote: "Even were we to have total access to all communist archives we still would not be able to calculate precisely how many the communists murdered. Consider that even in spite of the archival statistics and detailed reports of survivors, the best experts still disagree by over 40 percent on the total number of Jews killed by the Nazis. We cannot expect near this accuracy for the victims of communism. We can, however, get a probable order of magnitude and a relative approximation of these deaths within a most likely range".[18]"

    "In his introduction to the Black Book of Communism (1999), Stéphane Courtois gave a "rough approximation, based on unofficial estimates" approaching 100 million killed.[o] In his foreword to the book, Martin Malia noted "a grand total of victims variously estimated by contributors to the volume at between 85 million and 100 million".[p]"

    "According to Benjamin Valentino in 2005, the number of non-combatants killed by communist regimes in the Soviet Union, People's Republic of China and Cambodia alone ranged from a low of 21 million to a high of 70 million.[q][r] Citing Rummel and others, Valentino stated that the "highest end of the plausible range of deaths attributed to communist regimes" was up to 110 million".[q][s]"

    "In his book Red Holocaust (2010), Steven Rosefielde said that communism's internal contradictions "caused to be killed" approximately 60 million people and perhaps tens of millions more.[32]"

    "In 2011, Matthew White published his rough total of 70 million "people who died under communist regimes from execution, labor camps, famine, ethnic cleansing, and desperate flight in leaky boats", not counting those killed in wars.[t]"

    "In 2016, the Dissident blog of the Victims of Communism Memorial Foundation made an effort to compile updated ranges of estimates and concluded that the overall range "spans from 42,870,000 to 161,990,000" killed, with 100 million the most commonly cited figure.[u]"

    "In 2017, Professor Stephen Kotkin wrote in The Wall Street Journal that communism killed at least 65 million people between 1917 and 2017: "Though communism has killed huge numbers of people intentionally, even more of its victims have died from starvation as a result of its cruel projects of social engineering".[v][33]"

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    Quote Originally Posted by michal3141 View Post
    They divided us over 1000 years ago. Enforced different alphabets, religions and then enslaved.
    It's hard to unite after this but I agree we should build bridges rather than fight for foreign interests.
    or that went different way?

    and only in 1812 East Slavs became under occupation from the Tyvan people part?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Viridian1 View Post
    Poland took a piece of land with majority of ethnic Poles.

    What did soviets do in Poland on Sept 17 1939? Why do you defend soviets?
    And Soviets took parts of Poland that were mostly populated by Belorussians and Ukranians, obviously a lot of Poles where included there, and excuse of Soviets was to protect Belorussian and Ukranians.

    So its not much different than Poland taking land from Czechoslovakia. Btw dont get me wrong i completely sympathize with Poland and what you had to endure during WW2 was horrible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawspeaker View Post
    Sorry, Lily, but only weak people worship tyrants. I hold you to be stronger than that.
    Hmm, sorry but I don't think he's a tyrant. I've been an admirer of Putin for many years now. I think the western media demonises Putin.... and you know what the biased western media is like. Anyone who's heavily demonised in the western media must be a decent and cool person!

    Hillary Clinton often says a lot of nasty and mean things about Mr. Putin for example.... and she's always trashing President Putin - because she's a very corrupt person... but the awesome US President Trump is a lot more respectful towards President Putin.

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