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    Quote Originally Posted by Blondie View Post

    3. i don't think it's a good idea to glorify communism (or Sovietunion) which is the most destructive ideology, killed 100 million people in the world and created a terror states all over the World. If you see the numbers of victims, time and the complete history of 20. century they were worse than nazis.
    Most destructive ideology so far is fascism and I don't think forgetting that is good idea (except for Germans, for them fascism is obviously great idea).

    Hitler's ideology was to kill people who are not good enough by his standards (low races).

    Victims of this ideology would be much greater if he wasn't stopped. Russia (SSSR) gave many victims to stop this ideology and I don't think that should be forgotten (although I understand Polish attitude about Russia).

    For sure communism had own victims also but I would never compare it with fascism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moje ime View Post
    Most destructive ideology so far is fascism and I don't think forgetting that is good idea (except for Germans, for them fascism is obviously great idea).

    Hitler's ideology was to kill people who are not good enough by his standards (low races).

    Victims of this ideology would be much greater if he wasn't stopped. Russia (SSSR) gave many victims to stop this ideology and I don't think that should be forgotten (although I understand Polish attitude about Russia).

    For sure communism had own victims also but I would never compare it with fascism.
    I don't see much difference. One sought to exterminate racial enemies, other class enemies.
    And majority of communist crimes happened during peacetime.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Feiichy View Post
    I don't see much difference. One sought to exterminate racial enemies, other class enemies.
    And majority of communist crimes happened during peacetime.
    I as a Serb see the difference. Serbs were on a black list.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moje ime View Post
    I as a Serb see the difference. Serbs were on a black list.
    Not really. Faschist Serbs speak the contrary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Feiichy View Post
    Not really. Faschist Serbs speak the contrary.
    There is no fascist Serbs. Only Germans can follow true fascist Hitler's ideology. All others who try to do that are just ignorant fools.

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    i am neutral here, but
    what did Steinmeier and will never able to do any Russian tsar
    https://www.polskieradio.pl/395/7785...r-World-War-II
    cultural and mentally differences

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moje ime View Post
    There is no fascist Serbs. Only Germans can follow true fascist Hitler's ideology. All others who try to do that are just ignorant fools.
    Ofcourse there were, followers of Nedić were faschists, and followers of Ljotić were full blown nazis.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serbia...(World_War_II)

    Četnik program for genocide was typically faschist as well, despite some of allies recognized them as anti-faschist (extremelly ironic considering their plans and collaboration with Italians, Germans and Ustaše)

    Faschists can be any nationality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moje ime View Post
    Most destructive ideology so far is fascism and I don't think forgetting that is good idea (except for Germans, for them fascism is obviously great idea).

    Hitler's ideology was to kill people who are not good enough by his standards (low races).

    For sure communism had own victims also but I would never compare it with fascism.
    Fascism was only in Italy, Spain, Croatia, Slovakia, Romania and their victims were not much compared to other ideologies like imperialism, communism. So if you see the history fascism is the most humane ideology behind democracy. Fascism and national socialism are not same, but very different and NS governments were only in Germany and Hungary. The holocaust and the sins of SS death squads connected to national socialism not the fascism.

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    Victims of this ideology would be much greater if he wasn't stopped.
    If doesn't exist in the history only things which happened or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Feiichy View Post
    And majority of communist crimes happened during peacetime.
    Good point

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moje ime View Post
    Serbs were on a black list.
    Fact: Serbia and Germany had good relationship until the communist partizans rebelled against the serbian royal family in 1941.

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