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    Default Italian-Brazilian GEDmatch results

    Old guy from Minas Gerais countryside, all of his grandparents from Southern Italy (Campania and Basilicata). People with this genetic profile are becoming increasingly more rare in Brazil, fully European ancestry is more common among old people in rural areas. I have the pics of his grandson, he looks kinda ''Eastern Mediterranean/Sikeliotoid''.

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    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 East_Med 29.13
    2 West_Med 22.54
    3 North_Atlantic 19.31
    4 West_Asian 16.03
    5 Baltic 6.53
    6 Red_Sea 4.39
    7 Sub-Saharan 1.14
    8 East_Asian 0.92
    9 Northeast_African 0.03

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 South_Italian 3.76
    2 Italian_Abruzzo 4.38
    3 Central_Greek 4.52
    4 East_Sicilian 4.81
    5 West_Sicilian 5.11
    6 Ashkenazi 9.42
    7 Sephardic_Jewish 10.27
    8 Greek_Thessaly 10.3
    9 Tuscan 10.66
    10 Italian_Jewish 10.9
    11 Algerian_Jewish 11.28
    12 Tunisian_Jewish 14.83
    13 Libyan_Jewish 15.61
    14 North_Italian 16.7
    15 Cyprian 16.99
    16 Bulgarian 18.49
    17 Turkish 20.02
    18 Lebanese_Muslim 20.26
    19 Romanian 20.26
    20 Syrian 21.48

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 55.2% South_Italian + 44.8% Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.11
    2 89.4% West_Sicilian + 10.6% Abhkasian @ 2.24
    3 93.4% South_Italian + 6.6% Irish @ 2.28
    4 93.1% South_Italian + 6.9% Southwest_English @ 2.28
    5 93.5% South_Italian + 6.5% West_Scottish @ 2.3
    6 93.4% South_Italian + 6.6% Orcadian @ 2.34
    7 88.9% West_Sicilian + 11.1% Georgian @ 2.34
    8 92% South_Italian + 8% South_Dutch @ 2.36
    9 93.4% South_Italian + 6.6% North_Dutch @ 2.37
    10 93.1% South_Italian + 6.9% Southeast_English @ 2.38
    11 93.8% South_Italian + 6.2% Norwegian @ 2.39
    12 91.8% South_Italian + 8.2% West_German @ 2.39
    13 93.5% South_Italian + 6.5% Danish @ 2.4
    14 85.6% West_Sicilian + 14.4% Armenian @ 2.41
    15 93.2% South_Italian + 6.8% North_German @ 2.41
    16 91% South_Italian + 9% French @ 2.42
    17 93.9% South_Italian + 6.1% Swedish @ 2.47
    18 90.6% South_Italian + 9.4% Spanish_Cataluna @ 2.55
    19 93.8% South_Italian + 6.2% French_Basque @ 2.63
    20 86% South_Italian + 14% North_Italian @ 2.64


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    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 East_Med 27.89
    2 West_Med 19.39
    3 West_Asian 15.29
    4 North_Sea 12.67
    5 Atlantic 11.69
    6 Eastern_Euro 5.78
    7 Red_Sea 4.32
    8 Baltic 1.63
    9 Sub-Saharan 0.59
    10 Northeast_African 0.41
    11 Southeast_Asian 0.35

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Central_Greek 6.39
    2 East_Sicilian 6.81
    3 South_Italian 7.22
    4 Italian_Abruzzo 7.4
    5 Ashkenazi 8.04
    6 West_Sicilian 8.46
    7 Italian_Jewish 9.23
    8 Greek_Thessaly 10.6
    9 Sephardic_Jewish 11.02
    10 Algerian_Jewish 11.17
    11 Greek 11.24
    12 Tuscan 11.58
    13 Tunisian_Jewish 14.98
    14 Libyan_Jewish 15.01
    15 Cyprian 15.96
    16 North_Italian 17.41
    17 Bulgarian 18.01
    18 Turkish 19.25
    19 Lebanese_Muslim 19.38
    20 Romanian 19.58

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 64.7% Cyprian + 35.3% French @ 5.71
    2 61.8% Cyprian + 38.2% Spanish_Galicia @ 5.73
    3 60.1% North_Italian + 39.9% Kurdish_Jewish @ 5.96
    4 61.3% Cyprian + 38.7% Portuguese @ 5.99
    5 76.6% Central_Greek + 23.4% Italian_Jewish @ 6.02
    6 87.4% Central_Greek + 12.6% Libyan_Jewish @ 6.08
    7 71.4% Tuscan + 28.6% Kurdish_Jewish @ 6.1
    8 52.5% Cyprian + 47.5% North_Italian @ 6.11
    9 76.9% Italian_Abruzzo + 23.1% Libyan_Jewish @ 6.15
    10 85.2% Central_Greek + 14.8% Algerian_Jewish @ 6.18
    11 70.6% Cyprian + 29.4% Southwest_English @ 6.19
    12 95.6% Central_Greek + 4.4% Sardinian @ 6.22
    13 60.1% Tuscan + 39.9% Cyprian @ 6.23
    14 67.2% Cyprian + 32.8% West_German @ 6.23
    15 95.2% Central_Greek + 4.8% Algerian @ 6.27
    16 82.8% Central_Greek + 17.2% West_Sicilian @ 6.28
    17 63.4% Italian_Abruzzo + 36.6% Italian_Jewish @ 6.29
    18 96.1% Central_Greek + 3.9% Moroccan @ 6.3
    19 96.4% Central_Greek + 3.6% Mozabite_Berber @ 6.31
    20 63.1% Cyprian + 36.9% Spanish_Cataluna @ 6.32

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    Interesting. I guess his Italian-born ancestors would have left Italy long before WWII. Post his Dodecad K12b.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    Interesting. I guess his Italian-born ancestors would have left Italy long before WWII. Post his Dodecad K12b.
    They left Italy in the 19th century. The bulk of the Italian immigration to Brazil was between 1870 and 1930. Around 2 million Italians (mostly from Northeast Italy/Triveneto and continental South Italy) left Italy for Brazil in 60 years.

    Here you can see his Dodecad k12b:

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 Caucasus 31.89
    2 Atlantic_Med 30.21
    3 North_European 13.25
    4 Southwest_Asian 11.92
    5 Gedrosia 9.04
    6 Northwest_African 2.64
    7 East_African 1.05

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 5.45
    2 Sicilian (Dodecad) 6.14
    3 C_Italian (Dodecad) 7.54
    4 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 9.9
    5 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 10.03
    6 Greek (Dodecad) 10.2
    7 O_Italian (Dodecad) 10.29
    8 Tuscan (HGDP) 10.96
    9 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 11.03
    10 TSI30 (Metspalu) 11.83
    11 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 12.4
    12 N_Italian (Dodecad) 17.61
    13 North_Italian (HGDP) 18.7
    14 Cypriots (Behar) 20.63
    15 Turkish (Dodecad) 21.8
    16 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 22.14
    17 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 22.57
    18 Romanians (Behar) 23.34
    19 Lebanese (Behar) 23.9
    20 Turks (Behar) 24.14

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 63.5% North_Italian (HGDP) + 36.5% Iranian_Jews (Behar) @ 2.15
    2 53.8% Baleares (1000Genomes) + 46.2% Georgia_Jews (Behar) @ 2.22
    3 62.2% North_Italian (HGDP) + 37.8% Iraq_Jews (Behar) @ 2.24
    4 67.3% TSI30 (Metspalu) + 32.7% Lebanese (Behar) @ 2.51
    5 52.7% Galicia (1000Genomes) + 47.3% Georgia_Jews (Behar) @ 2.53
    6 50.6% Castilla_Y_Leon (1000Genomes) + 49.4% Georgia_Jews (Behar) @ 2.53
    7 56.2% North_Italian (HGDP) + 43.8% Lebanese (Behar) @ 2.58
    8 52.6% Galicia (1000Genomes) + 47.4% Assyrian (Dodecad) @ 2.6
    9 63.7% N_Italian (Dodecad) + 36.3% Iraq_Jews (Behar) @ 2.7
    10 53.6% Druze (HGDP) + 46.4% Cataluna (1000Genomes) @ 2.71
    11 52.4% Murcia (1000Genomes) + 47.6% Georgia_Jews (Behar) @ 2.72
    12 51.9% Georgia_Jews (Behar) + 48.1% Cantabria (1000Genomes) @ 2.73
    13 72.7% TSI30 (Metspalu) + 27.3% Iraq_Jews (Behar) @ 2.81
    14 53.7% Baleares (1000Genomes) + 46.3% Assyrian (Dodecad) @ 2.84
    15 52.7% Galicia (1000Genomes) + 47.3% Armenian (Dodecad) @ 2.89
    16 50% Spaniards (Behar) + 50% Georgia_Jews (Behar) @ 2.91
    17 52.8% Galicia (1000Genomes) + 47.2% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) @ 2.91
    18 50.6% Georgia_Jews (Behar) + 49.4% Spanish (Dodecad) @ 2.92
    19 73.7% TSI30 (Metspalu) + 26.3% Iranian_Jews (Behar) @ 2.93
    20 61.2% N_Italian (Dodecad) + 38.8% Druze (HGDP) @ 2.95

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    I miss his threads about Sicilians

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaditanian View Post
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    I miss his threads about Sicilians
    How so? He had left months before you registered. I believe he left this winter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    How so? He had left months before you registered. I believe he left this winter.
    In my first thread in this forum I wrote that I was reading here since january 2018, but for Unknown reason, I never received the confirmation email

    https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...ear-and-a-half

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaditanian View Post
    In my first thread in this forum I wrote that I was reading here since january 2018, but for Unknown reason, I never received the confirmation email

    https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...ear-and-a-half
    Sorry, my bad. I didn't see it, I normally don't read introductions and stuff. I bookmark certain sections that are of interest to me and access them directly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    Sorry, my bad. I didn't see it, I normally don't read introductions and stuff. I bookmark certain sections that are of interest to me and access them directly.
    No problem, I usually do the same, but how I am Old Fag (1999-2000) in many other forums, I know that it's polite to present to other members, before starting to post. I opened it as a formal requirement without waiting for such that warm welcome, a great forum with great members

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    Nice. How much east_med and italian he scores in k36?

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    Rare specimen. AFAIK most South Italians migrated to urban São Paulo. I'd certainly not expect to find a full South Italian in Minas Gerais countryside.

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