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    Quote Originally Posted by PAGANE View Post
    PREVIEW Prizren Sancagi Mufassal Defteri According to the Ottoman registers of 1571, the Prizren Sanjak has five Nahi: Prizren, Hocha, Zhezhna, Targovishte and Bihor.
    Most of the territory that once belonged to the Sanjak nowadays is part of Kosovo (Prizren and Hocha), Serbia (Zhejna, 20 km southeast of Novi Pazar) and the smallest part - Montenegro (Bihor and Targovishte, around Rozha). https://www.scribd.com/doc/50286188/...hanged=English
    Thanks, I saw it, but the part posted on scribd is only a fraction of that whole book. Besides, it's written by a Serbian historian and we all know Skerdilaid will dismiss it as a forgery as soon an he sees the author's name

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dušan View Post
    Your country is going to become Kurdistan, sooner or later. You should not worry about Serbia.
    I already don’t. I just expressed my opinion and you butthurt Serbs started to discuss for no reason, just lol.

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    Skopje as a Vilayet and military center
    Subdivision Skopje Sanjak Province. Population in general. Bulgarians, Pomaks, Turks, Arnauts, Serbs. General statistics of the villa. Villeet Governance. Mukhtari. Valley in Skopje from 1875 to the present. Khalid Rifat Pasha, Mehmed Fake Pasha, Ahmed Eyub Pasha, Ibrahim Edham Pasha. Hafuz Pasha and his politics. European Consuls. Military importance.
    The Skopje villa, also known as Kosovski, is divided into 6 sanjaks, namely: Skopje, Prizren, Novopazarski, Pekski and Plevlenski. Each of these sanjats is divided into several sayings. The total population of Skopje Villas has about 907 600 people. This population consists of Bulgarians, Turks, Arnauts and Serbs. Bulgarians and Turks live in the Kazas, which are in Macedonia. Serbs inhabit the goats in Old Serbia. Arnauts are widespread in both areas, except that in Macedonia they are located in border quarters as a minority, and in Old Serbia they are prevalent everywhere, which is why this area is often attributed to Upper Albania. The natural border between Macedonia and Old Serbia is the crest of the Shar Mountains and Montenegro.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pribislav View Post
    Turkey will be punished with independent Kurdistan, Erzurum as capital of Armenia, and Greek Smirna and Cyprus sooner or later.
    Kurds have population expansion simmilar to Albanians in Titoism. Turks don't reproduce enough, and their population will decline soon.

    Map of Total fertility rate. Notice kurdish regions with over 3 children per woman.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Moje ime View Post
    The evidence? A country, building, anything named "Albania" there?
    Albanians are the descendants of Illyrians, Serbs came to Balkans later with other Slavic tribes. Better you visit “Genetics” section since it’s not so far away instead of searching for the word “Albanian” on buildings for getting a realistic result.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pribislav View Post
    Kurdistan je Kurdistan, ne Turska!
    Kosovo je Kosovo legally. Turska je Turska legally as well. Idi i jebi se sada.

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    Quote Originally Posted by itilvolga View Post
    Albanians are the descendants of Illyrians, Serbs came to Balkans later with other Slavic tribes. Better you visit “Genetics” section since it’s not so far away instead of searching for the word “Albanian” on buildings for getting a realistic result.
    We have paleo-balkan blood to some degree, too. I got on most calculator 60% Polish/Ukrainian + 40% Greek. We are not foregners on Balkans.
    Kosovo was integral part of Serbia since medieval ages.

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    In 1857, the Russian scientist A. Hilferding points out that many Bulgarians live in Prizren alongside the Serbs. Even more emphatic is the Bosniak Stefan Verkovic, who in the 1980s wrote that the population in Prizren was not of Serbian origin, but of Bulgarian and khutsavlah origin.
    According to the famous German Slavist August Leskin, the border between the Serbian and Bulgarian languages ​​passes through Kosovo, "a little southeast of Pristina, further to Prizren or to the confluence of Beli and Cherni Drin", etc. Another of the most famous German Slavs, Gustav Vigant, points out that at the beginning of our century, there were 810 villages in Sanjak Pristina, an area that almost overlaps with today's Kosovo region, 547 are Albanian, 149 are Serbian, and 73 are Bulgarian, and 41 - with mixed population. And if the Bulgarians in Kosovo, the regions of Pristina and Prizren are spoken of as transitional populations, in a language that is heavily influenced by Serbs, then Muslims in the historical and geographical area of ​​Gora and our foreign scholars emphasize that they speak "pure Bulgarian language "from the Middle Macedonian dialect. The geographical location of the forest district is between the Šar, Vratsa, Karab and Koritnik mountains, in the Mlika River basin and other tributaries of the Plava River. - Yugoslavia), and 1/4 in the territory of Albania. After the Second World War, when the borders of the Socialist Republic of Macedonia were drawn, the forests were left in the territory of Serbia, the administrative district of Kosovo. The rest of the population calls the goranis "torbesh", "poturnatzs", they call themselves gorani and shops. According to the official Serbian thesis, the the gorans are "Yugoslavs", which is an administrative act to conceal the true national identity of the population. According to official sources in the Republic of Macedonia, these people are Islamized "Slav-Macedonians". It is noteworthy that Serbian scholars, according to which almost the entire Balkan Peninsula is "Old Serbia", recognize the Bulgarian elements in the language of "Yugoslavs" from Kosobsca (Prizren) Gora. They explain the phenomenon of male indiscrimination against Mountain men in Bulgaria. But after the First World War, for 80 years, these people cannot come to Bulgaria. People living in Yugoslavia study Serbian and Albanian in Albanian. However, the language they learn from their mothers at home retains all-Bulgarian grammar, vocabulary and sound. The women did not leave Forest, and some even left their own village. The Bulgarians in the Gora district are Muslim. The process of Islamization began in the sixteenth century, but it was strongest at the end of the eighteenth and the first half of the nineteenth century. The last Bulgarian Christians left the area in the period 1912-1918. and after the Second World War - outside the Republic of Macedonia. At the end of the last century, Bulgarian was spoken in 42 villages in the area, with Albanian and a good deal of men also speaking Turkish. In the years of the First World War in 11 of the villages the first language was already Albanian, but in the remaining 29 the mother tongue was Bulgarian. The forests themselves speak their language "nashenski", "we speak nashenski". These villages are Restelica, Evil Stream, Krusevo, Brod, Dikanc, Backa, Mlike, Kukalen, Lyuboshka, Radesh, Leshane, Krakosha (Albanian Dragach), Shajnovce, Gorno Rapche, Donno Rapche, Gorni Karstets, Donni Karstets, Orgosta, Orchisha, Pakisha, Zapot, Kosharishte, Ochikle, Tsornolovo, Oreshek, Shishcheets, Borje, Globocina and Vranishte. At that time, their population was 15,000.
    Slec The Second World War the Bulgarian state abandoned the Western and Southwestern Bulgarian lands not only as a state territory but also as a cultural influence. It is only recently that Bulgarians have spoken in these lands. Contacts were made with Bulgarians in Albania, including those from Gora who are Albanian citizens. But for the Bulgarians in Kosovo, at least until now, no mention is made. It is time for the Bulgarian side to be interested in those "Yugoslavs" who are not only with "Bulgarian influence in the language", but also with Bulgarian ethnic roots and partially preserved Bulgarian consciousness.
    Today, the population of the Forest District is divided by state borders into three. 18 villages are in the borders of Kosovo, Serbia - Gorno Rapce, Dolno Rapce, Mali Krustec, Gornji Krustec, Dragash, Ljubovishte, Radesha, Kukaljane, Leshtane, Vranice, Mlike, Bokka, Dikance, Globocica, Brot, Krusevo, Zlitsa Potok, Rezice ; 9 villages in Albania, Kukus County - Zapot, Pakisha, Kosharishte, Ochikle, Orgosta, Tzarnolevo, Oreshek, Borje; 2 villages in the Republic of Macedonia - Urbic and Jeloviani. In fact, the last two villages are on the southeastern slopes of Shar Mountain, in the historical and geographical district of Polo, in particular Gorni Polo.
    After the Balkans (1912–1913) and the First World War, a series of emigration waves existed among the townspeople - in Macedonia, Turkey, Bulgaria, Serbia. Due to the very high birth rate, after every wave of emigration, demographic potential is restored for one or two decades.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dušan View Post
    We have paleo-balkan blood to some degree, too. I got on most calculator 60% Polish/Ukrainian + 40% Greek. We are not foregners on Balkans.
    Kosovo was integral part of Serbia since medieval ages.
    And we generally get 50% Greek + 50% Turkmen. Why do some fags tell us to leave Anatolia and turn back to Central Asian steppes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by itilvolga View Post
    Kosovo je Kosovo legally. Turska je Turska legally as well. Idi i jebi se sada.
    Kurdi su budućnost Turke, pomiri se s tim blentačo.


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