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    Quote Originally Posted by catgeorge View Post
    You can only be saved by a mainland Greek to normalise your genetic defects.
    I would never breed any of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dušan View Post
    We have paleo-balkan blood to some degree, too. I got on most calculator 60% Polish/Ukrainian + 40% Greek. We are not foregners on Balkans.
    Kosovo was integral part of Serbia since medieval ages.

    Most of your ‘paleo-balkan’ blood, especially in regions like Kosova, Montenegro and southern Serbia is Albanian in majority. There were no Illyrians when Serbs showed up in the Balkans, they had either assimilated into Latin speaking communities or were transformed into Albanians. For example this is very obvious when looking at the ydna clusters of serbs from Kosove, most of their V13 is under Y133830 (Bjelopavlici who trace their origins to North Albania), BY14151 (Vasojevici who are from southern Montenegro), BY4461 (major Albanian cluster among North Albanian tribes), FGC11450 (quite divers in all Albanian groups, from north to south) and L241 (most seem to be PH2180+ like many Albanian tribes). After V13 your next group among your ‘paleo Balkan’ blood is BY611>Z2705, where Piperi are for example etc....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vožd View Post
    lol no, Albanians have absolutely nothing to do with Illyrians of today Kosovo region (btw Dardania was most likely Thracian state).
    Original Dardania was not. Dardanus and his people, were originally from Crete who migrated to Troy via Samothrace as Livy and other historians state. The Dardanus migration to Troy happened in 1460 BC which is the late Minoan period. Dardanus also brought the mysteries of the Kabeiroi (who founded Knossos) to Troy.

    Archeologically Minoan colonies in Asia-Minor date to 3000 BC.

    After the Trojan war the fleeing Trojans from the Dardania in Troy founded the new Dardania in the Balkans above Paeonia.

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    Yes. We made Kosovo independent so it could be used as a military base and portal for CIA to bring drugs into Europe.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jehan View Post
    It seems that kosovars are albanians, so why they named themself kosovar and didn't merge with albania?

    Was it a deal with USA to create it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mingle View Post

    Also, Serb rule over Kosovo can't be called colonialism. Colonialism would have been Ottoman rule over Kosovo if anything.
    Why not? When Serbs entered Kosova during WW1 after 500 years of Ottoman occupation, they found a region dominated by Albanians. Who resisted their military occupation. That's the hard truth. It's another matter that big powers back then unjustly decided to give it Yugoslavia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mingle View Post
    It's not that simple, otherwise the Serbian Krajina Republic should have been a separate country as well. And NW North Macedonia should also separate using the same logic.

    Regardless, I'm not here to give my opinion on how the conflict should be resolved. I was just quoting the other user because they claimed Serbs are less native to Kosovo than Albanians are.

    Also, Serb rule over Kosovo can't be called colonialism. Colonialism would have been Ottoman rule over Kosovo if anything.
    No, because Serb population in ''Krajina'' was not compact and not even close to percentage of Albanians in Kosovo. in April 1991, percentage of Serbs in Krajina was only 52%.
    As well as because of geographic shape of Croatia, any Serbian state would make it impossible to survive (because Krajina would include parts of south, central and east parts, and cut off entire regions from each other lol). Serbia kept normal functional shapee without Kosovo, this would be Croatia (who already has frankenstein shape) without Krajina:



    Even if Serbs were 100%, we would never allow it to secede. Because than we could disband the country alltogheder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dušan View Post
    She is hypocrite serbophobic ustashophile woman.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Feiichy View Post
    No, because Serb population in ''Krajina'' was not compact and not even close to percentage of Albanians in Kosovo. in April 1991, percentage of Serbs in Krajina was only 52%.
    We were 52% because Eastern Slavonia is counted among Krajina, while in fact that region has not much to do with Krajina, its more simillar to Vojvodina. If we dont count eastern Slavonia, which would never be part of Krajina if anyone decided to give Krajina autonomy, we would be around 65%.

    When Kosovo was given autonomy Albanians were also 65% of population, thus your argument is not valid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morlak View Post
    We were 52% because Eastern Slavonia is counted among Krajina, while in fact that region has not much to do with Krajina, its more simillar to Vojvodina. If we dont count eastern Slavonia, which would never be part of Krajina if anyone decided to give Krajina autonomy, we would be around 65%.

    When Kosovo was given autonomy Albanians were also 65% of population, thus your argument is not valid.
    Than autonomy goes to muslims in Sandžak as well as to all ethnic groups in BiH.
    Only possibility for Serbs to get anything from Croatia was to move population from Krajina to eastern Slavonia and Baranya, kind of population exchange. That borders Serbia and isn't as vital territory, that could potentially join Serbia (also much more fertile than Krajina). Let's be clear, Krajina was lowly populated and underdeveloped shithole with no big urban centre, and Serbs could bomb any Croatian city from there whenever they wanted to.

    Krajina was useless without a sea access for trade, and all coast was Croatian. That is why Serbs tried to conquer Zadar, Šibenik, or large continental city like Karlovac, despite these cities were Croatian majority.
    I won't mention Dubrovnik as it was more of Montenegrins plan to conquer it than of Krajina Serbs.

    Point is that Krajina Serbs were not counting on ethnic Serb territory in Croatia, but lot more than that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Feiichy View Post
    Than autonomy goes to muslims in Sandžak as well as to all ethnic groups in BiH.
    Only possibility for Serbs to get anything from Croatia was to move population from Krajina to eastern Slavonia and Baranya, kind of population exchange. That borders Serbia and isn't as vital territory, that could potentially join Serbia (also much more fertile than Krajina). Let's be clear, Krajina was lowly populated and underdeveloped shithole with no big urban centre, and Serbs could bomb any Croatian city from there whenever they wanted to.

    Krajina was useless without a sea access for trade, and all coast was Croatian. That is why Serbs tried to conquer Zadar, Šibenik, or large continental city like Karlovac, despite these cities were Croatian majority.
    I won't mention Dubrovnik as it was more of Montenegrins plans to conquer it than of Krajina Serbs.

    Point is that Krajina Serbs were not counting on ethnic Serb territory in Croatia, but lot more than that.
    You claimed that Krajina cant be compared to Kosovo because of ethnic percentage, which i debunked. Now, the rest of nonsense you keep writing is not relevant.

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