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    Quote Originally Posted by Feiichy View Post
    They tried to conquer them, it's a fact. Serb tanks were stopped on bridge on entrance to Šibenik by artillery from nearby Islands. In Karlovac, they were stopped in suburbs after heavy fighting.
    My parents are from these cities btw. New proposed name for Šibenik was Mladićevo.

    This was early in the war when Croatian rebels attacked Yugoslav army barracks, so what did you expect that Yugoslav army would just let you take them without a fight? And this attack was led by JNA not Army of Krajina, which at the time didnt exist yet.

    And you need to understand that best way of defense is attack, if Yugoslav army managed to take Sibenik and split Croatia in half this would make your position much harder and thus it would be easier for Serbs to demand more things at negotiations, so this attack doesn't necessarily mean that we wanted to incorporate Sibenik into Krajina.

    This is very common in warfare, for example after WW1 Serbian army took some Hungarian cities and towns such as Pecs or Baja on which we didnt have any serious claims, but we did this to strengthen our position on negotiations table.

    First time i hear that city was supposed to be renamed to Mladićevo lmao, that is kinda weird and i will need some sources to believe that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morlak View Post
    This was early in the war when Croatian rebels attacked Yugoslav army barracks, so what did you expect that Yugoslav army would just let you take them without a fight? And this attack was led by JNA not Army of Krajina, which at the time didnt exist yet.

    And you need to understand that best way of defense is attack, if Yugoslav army managed to take Sibenik and split Croatia in half this would make your position much harder and thus it would be easier for Serbs to demand more things at negotiations, so this attack doesn't necessarily mean that we wanted to incorporate Sibenik into Krajina.

    This is very common in warfare, for example after WW1 Serbian army took some Hungarian cities and towns such as Pecs or Baja on which we didnt have any serious claims, but we did this to strengthen our position on negotiations table.

    First time i hear that city was supposed to be renamed to Mladićevo lmao, that is kinda weird and i will need some sources to believe that.
    Yeah, I understand it is advantage from military tactics point of view. About Maldićevo, that could be an urban legend but that is what we were told nevertheless

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    Quote Originally Posted by Feiichy View Post
    About Maldićevo, that could be an urban legend but that is what we were told nevertheless
    Most definitely just an urban legend, firstly because name Šibenik is not considered foreign or strange among Serbs, and second is that Mladić wasn't even popular back then to have a city named after him. His fame grew later during his time in Bosnia.

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    Number of UN member-states that recognize Kosovo independence is declining.




    Czechia will withdraw recognition soon, according to president Miloš Zeman.
    https://balkaninsight.com/2019/09/11...on-withdrawal/

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    Quote Originally Posted by wvwvw View Post
    Why jt isn't part of Serbia is a better question.

    The KLA were Murdering Serbs all through the 80's and 90's who in 1940 made up more than 50% of the population.

    Since the 80's MORE Serbs have been killed by the Fascist KLA Terrorist organisation than Albanians killed by Serb in retaliation to KLA Terrorist murders. It was not until the U.S started illegally arming the KLA Terrorists and suporting its Fascistic ethnic cleansing of Serbs that serious troubles began in Kossovo.

    And we are all aware the so called Rajick massacre was proven by independent French investigators to be a fake set up by the KLA and CIA inored to give it the pretext to destroy Serbia.

    Ther same was proven by the UN with the food queue shelling in Sebranica which as committed by the Muslims, which the US used as a pretext to start is Terrorist bombings.

    British amongst other reporters were taken to the place in southern Kosovo where NATO bombed more refugees, with a probable minimum of 100 dead. These were mainly women and children. Reporters were counting badly burned bodies and said that the area was strewn with body parts. The Albanians had been hiding in the woods, but had been told it was safe to go home. This shows the concern NATO has for the refugees. They are nothing but pawns.
    Death toll during the war and some months after:
    8,676 - Albanians
    1,641 - Non Albanians.
    http://www.kosovomemorybook.org/wp-c...04_02_2015.pdf

    Surely it would've been more appropriate for the Albanians to assimilate the Slavs, than to drive them out or attack them after the war. We should've ask the Greeks for some good advises, after all you did a great job assimilating a Slavic sea during the Dark Ages and Ottoman period.

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    Quote Originally Posted by -Scar- View Post
    Death toll during the war and some months after:
    8,676 - Albanians
    1,641 - Non Albanians.
    http://www.kosovomemorybook.org/wp-c...04_02_2015.pdf

    Surely it would've been more appropriate for the Albanians to assimilate the Slavs, than to drive them out or attack them after the war. We should've ask the Greeks for some good advises, after all you did a great job assimilating a Slavic sea during the Dark Ages and Ottoman period.
    Because we are good at loving and eventually breed out invadors - its happened over and over and over............and over...

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    That's a good question .....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dušan View Post
    Number of UN member-states that recognize Kosovo independence is declining.




    Czechia will withdraw recognition soon, according to president Miloš Zeman.
    https://balkaninsight.com/2019/09/11...on-withdrawal/
    Ghana Withdraws 'Premature' Kosovo Recognition

    Ghana says it has reversed its recognition of Kosovo as an independent state.

    A November 11 statement from the Ghanaian Foreign Ministry said the 2012 decision to recognize the former Serbian province’s statehood turned out to be “premature” in view of UN Security Council Resolution 1244.

    The 1999 resolution placed Kosovo under international protection and gave the region "substantial autonomy" within Yugoslavia, which Serbia was a part of at the time.

    Deputy Foreign Minister Charles Owiredu told AFP that the decision was communicated to Serbia.

    Kosovo's ethnic Albanian-majority proclaimed independence in 2008, a move recognized by more than 110 countries but not by Belgrade, its ally Russia, and five EU nations.

    Serbia's Foreign Ministry hailed Ghana’s "important decision" and claimed the Western African country became “the 16th United Nations member state to have reversed its recognition of Kosovo."

    Serbian Foreign Minister Ivica Dacic said Ghana had informed of its decision over the weekend, adding that the move will "certainly influence other countries…to revoke their decision on recognition" of Kosovo.

    Jetlir Zyberaj, an advisor to Kosovo's Foreign Ministry, on November 11 rejected claims by Belgrade that Ghana had revoked its recognition as "fake news" and a "continuation of a dirty campaign.”
    https://www.rferl.org/a/ghana-withdr.../30266937.html
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    Nauru withdraws recognition of Kosovo’s independence

    Nauru, a tiny island country in Micronesia, northeast of Australia, became the 17th state that revoked its decision to recognise Kosovo as an independent state, N1 reported on Friday.
    http://rs.n1info.com/documents/13953...ependence.html
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