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    Default The great Yamnaya ladder

    most to least Yamnaya ancestry. I've run it all in R. using Polako's model.

    many Orientals seem to have more Yamnaya ancestry than many Europeans

    if you have G25 scaled I can run your coordinates to compare with the list.


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    You can tell that is all just noise from mostly Siberian groups like the Komi, Sami etc.
    Those who want to live, let them fight, and those who do not want to fight in this world of eternal struggle do not deserve to live.

    Even if this were hard--that is how it is ! Assuredly, however, by far the harder fate is that which strikes the man who thinks he can overcome Nature, but in the last analysis only mocks her. Distress, misfortune, and diseases are her answer.

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    Euro score would be Yamnaya_RUS_Samara + WHG. northern, northwestern and western Euros score relevant WHG ancestry as well, unlike southern and southeastern Europe

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    Can you do mine and my parents? With the fit. Cheers.
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    The Komi are not "Siberian", they are very far Northeastern European. 15-20% Siberian or so.

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    Eastern Euros arent that high in yamnaya. Add Narva_HG and the percentage drops.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    The Komi are not "Siberian", they are very far Northeastern European. 15-20% Siberian or so.
    Thats called Siberian XD
    Those who want to live, let them fight, and those who do not want to fight in this world of eternal struggle do not deserve to live.

    Even if this were hard--that is how it is ! Assuredly, however, by far the harder fate is that which strikes the man who thinks he can overcome Nature, but in the last analysis only mocks her. Distress, misfortune, and diseases are her answer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nurzat View Post
    most to least Yamnaya ancestry. I've run it all in R.

    many Orientals seem to have more Yamnaya ancestry than many Europeans

    if you have G25 scaled I can run your coordinates to compare with the list.


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    i think that bell beaker and corded ware didn't originate from yamnaya, but they all 3 originated from a common ancestor culture. so most Europeans don't have much of actual yamnaya ancestry. except those who live close to areas where real Yamnaya was present. like Romania, Ukraine, etc.

    if you model the europeans as Bell Beaker + Corded Ware + Yamnaya + Neolithic farmers + other stuff, then the results make more sense. and not just Yamnaya_Samara, Europeans who get Yamnaya get a better fit with Yamnaya_BGR.

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    @Leto

    Well I should say you are right they are Western Hunter Gatherer+Siberia, that's why a lot look white.
    Those who want to live, let them fight, and those who do not want to fight in this world of eternal struggle do not deserve to live.

    Even if this were hard--that is how it is ! Assuredly, however, by far the harder fate is that which strikes the man who thinks he can overcome Nature, but in the last analysis only mocks her. Distress, misfortune, and diseases are her answer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaleoEuropean View Post
    Thats called Siberian XD
    Quote Originally Posted by PaleoEuropean View Post
    @Leto

    Well I should say you are right they are Western Hunter Gatherer+Siberia, that's why a lot look white.
    All I was saying is they live west of the Ural mountains. Most of them do look Northern Russian, maybe because Northern Russians have similar ancestry (less Siberian on average though)
    See the red and purple areas, especially the darker ones.

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