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    Quote Originally Posted by Feiichy View Post
    Adding Sredny_Stog instead of Yamnaya worsens my fit.

    sample": "Custom:Feiichy_scaled",
    "fit": 4.62,

    "UKR_Sredny_Stog_II_En": 60.83,
    "Anatolia_Barcin_N": 29.17,
    "WHG": 10,

    So this isn't a good model for steppe admixture.
    mine (dunno why on Polako's model now I get 47, it was 45.8 - does it recalculate each time?):

    "distance%=3.9502"
    UKR_Sredny_Stog_II_En,54.4
    Anatolia_Barcin_N,25.6
    RUS_Khvalynsk_En,6.9
    Anatolia_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N,5.8
    WHG,4.9
    Kura-Araxes_ARM_Kaps,1.7
    Han,0.7
    IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N,0
    IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA3,0
    Levant_PPNB,0
    Nganassan,0


    "distance%=4.3694"
    Yamnaya_RUS_Samara,47
    Anatolia_Barcin_N,44
    WHG,8.3
    Han,0.7
    Anatolia_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N,0
    BRA_LapaDoSanto_9600BP,0
    Dinka,0
    ETH_4500BP,0
    Gambian,0
    IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N,0
    IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA3,0
    Jarawa,0
    Kura-Araxes_ARM_Kaps,0
    Levant_PPNB,0
    MAR_Iberomaurusian,0
    Nganassan,0
    Yoruba,0

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    Quote Originally Posted by Feiichy View Post
    Thanks Yes, can be. We have quite more CHG than north Euros have. Also in Balkans Yamnaya type of R1b is common.
    I tried model myself with Corded_Ware DEU and it gave me better fit.

    For NW Europeans Bell Beaker is best fit for steppe input ?
    Yep. German Corded Ware is an equally good fit, which suggests they are directly ancestral to BB.

    Code:
    [1] "distance%=3.1612"
    
             Creoda_scaled
    
    Bell_Beaker_NLD,82.8
    Scotland_N,17.2
    
    [1] "distance%=3.1227"
    
    Creoda_scaled
    
    Corded_Ware_DEU,67
    Scotland_N,32.2
    WHG,0.8
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    Quote Originally Posted by Feiichy View Post
    Adding Sredny_Stog instead of Yamnaya worsens my fit.

    sample": "Custom:Feiichy_scaled",
    "fit": 4.62,

    "UKR_Sredny_Stog_II_En": 60.83,
    "Anatolia_Barcin_N": 29.17,
    "WHG": 10,

    So this isn't a good model for steppe admixture.
    Code:
    [1] "distance%=2.217"
    
             Feodora
    
    Bell_Beaker_CZE_o,21.8
    Corded_Ware_Baltic,19.4
    Bell_Beaker_HUN_EBA,14
    Nordic_LN,8
    Bell_Beaker_HUN,5.8
    Bell_Beaker_Rhine-Main,4
    BGR_MP_N,2
    Corded_Ware_POL,1.8
    HUN_ALPc_III_MN,1.2
    Yamnaya_UKR_Ozera_o,1.2
    GRC_Peloponnese_N,1
    HUN_Lengyel_LN,1
    ROU_C,1
    BGR_Late_C,0.8
    HUN_Koros_N,0.8
    IRN_Tepe_Abdul_Hosein_N,0.8
    SAHG,0.8
    BGR_Krepost_N,0.6
    HRV_Impressa_N,0.6
    HUN_ALPc_I_MN,0.6
    HUN_ALPc_MN,0.6
    IRN_Hajji_Firuz_C,0.6
    POL_BKG_N_o1,0.6
    POL_BKG_N_o2,0.6
    TKM_Tepe_Anau_En,0.6
    Yamnaya_RUS_Kalmykia,0.6
    Anatolia_Pinarbasi_HG,0.4
    BGR_N,0.4
    DEU_Esperstedt_MN,0.4
    HUN_Balaton_Lasinja_CA,0.4
    HUN_Bu_kk_MN,0.4
    HUN_LCA,0.4
    HUN_Vinca_MN,0.4
    IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N,0.4
    IRN_Seh_Gabi_LN,0.4
    IRN_Wezmeh_N,0.4
    ROU_Iron_Gates_HG,0.4
    RUS_Devils_Gate_Cave_N,0.4
    SRB_Iron_Gates_HG,0.4
    SRB_N,0.4
    Anatolia_Barcin_N,0.2
    Anatolia_Boncuklu_N,0.2
    Anatolia_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N,0.2
    BedouinA,0.2
    Corded_Ware_Baltic_early,0.2
    CZE_MN,0.2
    DEU_LBK_N,0.2
    GEO_CHG,0.2
    GRC_N,0.2
    Han,0.2
    HUN_Baden_LCA,0.2
    HUN_Koros_N_HG,0.2
    HUN_Sopot_LN,0.2
    IRN_Seh_Gabi_C,0.2
    MKD_N,0.2
    POL_BKG_N,0.2
    ROU_Iron_Gates_N,0.2
    UZB_Bustan_En,0.2

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    "sample": "Custom:VFlumina_scaled",
    "fit": 2.8057,
    "Anatolia_Barcin_N": 55,
    "Yamnaya_RUS_Samara": 40.83,
    "ITA_Villabruna": 4.17,
    "Anatolia_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N": 0,
    "Han": 0,
    "Kura-Araxes_ARM_Kaps": 0,
    "Levant_PPNB": 0,
    "MAR_Iberomaurusian": 0,
    "Nganassan": 0,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nurzat View Post
    mine (dunno why on Polako's model now I get 47, it was 45.8 - does it recalculate each time?):
    You have to use pen=0 to get the same scores every time and remove a lot of the noise.
    "differences in genetic ancestry that happen to correlate with many of today's racial constructs are real" - (((David Reich)))
    "genetic variations are likely to affect behaviour and cognition just as they affect other traits" - (((David Reich)))

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    Quote Originally Posted by Creoda View Post
    You have to use pen=0 to get the same scores every time and remove a lot of the noise.
    how do I do that in R? lemme see. brb

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yamnaya View Post
    ,PC1,PC2,PC3,PC4,PC5,PC6,PC7,PC8,PC9,PC10,PC11,PC1 2,PC13,PC14,PC15,PC16,PC17,PC18,PC19,PC20,PC21,PC2 2,PC23,PC24,PC25
    Oleg_scaled,0.129758,0.083273,0.071276,0.063631,0. 016003,0.022032,0.022326,0.011076,-0.00225,-0.034989,0.013641,-0.005395,0.020069,0.012661,-0.021715,-0.003182,0.008345,-0.00266,-0.003394,0.002126,-0.003494,-0.009274,0.002835,-0.01205,-0.001197

    ,PC1,PC2,PC3,PC4,PC5,PC6,PC7,PC8,PC9,PC10,PC11,PC1 2,PC13,PC14,PC15,PC16,PC17,PC18,PC19,PC20,PC21,PC2 2,PC23,PC24,PC25
    Oleg,0.0114,0.0082,0.0189,0.0197,0.0052,0.0079,0.0 095,0.0048,-0.0011,-0.0192,0.0084,-0.0036,0.0135,0.0092,-0.016,-0.0024,0.0064,-0.0021,-0.0027,0.0017,-0.0028,-0.0075,0.0023,-0.01,-0.001


    Mine, i'm russian 1/4 bashkir
    mine nursat

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yamnaya View Post
    mine nursat
    already did yours here, with the name "Alek":

    https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...=1#post6229049

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nurzat View Post
    already did yours here, with the name "Alek":

    https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...=1#post6229049
    Thanks! Have you tested other Russians? What's the average score for them in Global25?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cumansky View Post
    For basic components project this the best I seen for me by Ph2ter:


    [1]"distance%=4.8489"



    MykhailoTepes

    EURASIAN-STEPPE, 42.6
    ANATOLIA-EEF, 20.2
    LEVANT, 18.2
    EUROPE-WHG, 8
    EAST-ASIA, 5.4
    INDIA, 2.4
    ATLAS, 1.6
    WEST-SIBERIA-HG, 1.6
    Are you using nMonte?

    This are mine:

    ,PC1,PC2,PC3,PC4,PC5,PC6,PC7,PC8,PC9,PC10,PC11,PC1 2,PC13,PC14,PC15,PC16,PC17,PC18,PC19,PC20,PC21,PC2 2,PC23,PC24,PC25
    Oleg_scaled,0.129758,0.083273,0.071276,0.063631,0. 016003,0.022032,0.022326,0.011076,-0.00225,-0.034989,0.013641,-0.005395,0.020069,0.012661,-0.021715,-0.003182,0.008345,-0.00266,-0.003394,0.002126,-0.003494,-0.009274,0.002835,-0.01205,-0.001197

    ,PC1,PC2,PC3,PC4,PC5,PC6,PC7,PC8,PC9,PC10,PC11,PC1 2,PC13,PC14,PC15,PC16,PC17,PC18,PC19,PC20,PC21,PC2 2,PC23,PC24,PC25
    Oleg,0.0114,0.0082,0.0189,0.0197,0.0052,0.0079,0.0 095,0.0048,-0.0011,-0.0192,0.0084,-0.0036,0.0135,0.0092,-0.016,-0.0024,0.0064,-0.0021,-0.0027,0.0017,-0.0028,-0.0075,0.0023,-0.01,-0.001

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