Why Greece turned into a shithole if is the birth point of western civilization?

[MinervaItalica]

Germany and its austerity policy are to blame.

[Lucas Rodrigues]

Because they vote for socialists, that is it.
France is the same, too socialist, even their "hero" Le Pen is socialist and abortist. She could deport all non-whites, yet the socialist and globalist French would stay there to keep on destroying the economy.

[Crn Volk]

Why Greece turned in a shithole if is the birth point of western civilization?

Somewhere between Byzantium and the Ottoman empire

[PaleoEuropean]

Greek Culture doesn't Equate into Greek Civilization, Greek Civilization is just a clone of previous Sumerian, Akkadian, Assyrian,Phoenician Hittite etc. the code of Hammurabi is the catalyst of Western Civilization if anything. Greeks deserve credit for a lot of things but saying they are the beginning when they are a product of civilizations before them is just ill informed.

[PaleoEuropean]

Germany and its austerity policy are to blame.

Yea maybe if Italy didn't lose to Ethiopia and failed to invade Greece, they could have been a shit hole because of Italian rule.

[OdisseusOfiucus]

Greek Culture doesn't Equate into Greek Civilization, Greek Civilization is just a clone of previous Sumerian, Akkadian, Assyrian,Phoenician Hittite etc. the code of Hammurabi is the catalyst of Western Civilization if anything. Greeks deserve credit for a lot of things but saying they are the beginning when they are a product of civilizations before them is just ill informed.

What happen with these guys?

[catgeorge]

Greek Culture doesn't Equate into Greek Civilization, Greek Civilization is just a clone of previous Sumerian, Akkadian, Assyrian,Phoenician Hittite etc. the code of Hammurabi is the catalyst of Western Civilization if anything. Greeks deserve credit for a lot of things but saying they are the beginning when they are a product of civilizations before them is just ill informed.

No you are ill informed. Greeks acknowledged all that required to be acknowledged through the Greek genesis via Theogony by Hesiod.

Greeks were the first to accurately depict its culture in literature and arts in eligible format.

[PaleoEuropean]

What happen with these guys?

Famine, other nations arose copying their model but improving it and then took over their predecessors; lots of factors changed the direction of empires. The Byzantines were Greece's biggest issue. The Normans Crusaders (their Armenian Allies) and the Turks carved out all kinds of land from them, the Normans also took out their holdings in Italy, so they were effectively tied down to Anatolia and the Balkans.

[PaleoEuropean]

No you are ill informed. Greeks acknowledged all that required to be acknowledged through the Greek genesis via Theogony by Hesiod.

Greeks were the first to accurately depict its culture in literature and arts in eligible format.

Like I said, their culture is slightly unique, but their civilization, codes of law, building techniques all came from civilizations before them.

[MinervaItalica]

Yea maybe if Italy didn't lose to Ethiopia and failed to invade Greece, they could have been a shit hole because of Italian rule.