Are there any Europeans with Haplogroup Q?

[Peterski]

Right, there was a little bit of backflow from Americas to Iberia even early on.

Edit:

Ok, his paternal great-grandfather is from Spain. Well, I guess some backflow to Spain in the 1600s is more probable than a Mongol in Spain.

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I've edited my post and added more info to it. This Y-DNA haplogroup has already been found in ancient DNA samples from North America.

It entered North America with Paleo-Eskimos (Dorset culture), who were also ancestral to the Na-Dene tribes according to recent studies.

Na-Dene tribes later migrated as far south as Northern Mexico, and even raided Central and Southern Mexico during Mexican-Indian wars:



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It is probably a Dene-Yenisean lineage, this is why it exists also in Russia/Mongolia, apart from North America:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Den%C3...eian_languages



^^^ Na-Dene languages within the Dene-Yenisean family:



His Y-DNA is likely from the Apache or Comanche (the latter aren't Dene, but could absorb it from neighbours & spread it south during their raids):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qO_IkNfT3Iw#t=2h56m19s - skip to 2:56:19 to watch the part about Comanche-Mexican wars

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comanc...%93Mexico_Wars

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apache...%93Mexico_Wars

^^^ Comanche raids into Mexico:

[Javiberius]

Great, another Troll. Bro I swear, I can’t post anymore threads on The Apricity without trolls on these forums questioning my European heritage saying I’m not really European like it’s funny or something. My direct male ancestor was not from a Native American, that’s ridiculous! Where do you guys come up with this stuff? How absurd!

[Peterski]

Yes I am completely Iberian genetically, both my mother and father are of Pure Iberian ancestry. Like I said, I’m Latino.

What are your autosomal results ??? Post your GEDmatch results.

Being Latino doesn't mean you must be 100% Iberian. Some Latinos are 100% Iberian, but not all.

My direct male ancestor was not from a Native American, that’s ridiculous!

Huh? Either that or a Mongol or a Kazakh. Just look here: https://www.yfull.com/tree/Q-L330/

It is probably a Dene-Yenisean haplogroup (that's why it exists also in Russia, Mongolia etc.).

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It comes from Beringia, according to: https://www.cell.com/current-biology...822(18)31495-7

"This scenario implies an earlier diversification in Beringia, at around 18.9 (16.7–21.4) kya (the coalescence time of the American and northern Siberian and European Q lineages), and a Beringian origin for the Eurasian lineages Q-L330 and Q-L804, as previously argued for some mtDNA lineages [9], and even for the Dene-Yeniseian languages[33]."

[Javiberius]

You know what? That’s okay...I’ll pass. I’d rather be Native American, Negroid, or Asian (Siberian) than a pale faced, blue eyed, European Devil!

[Yaglakar]

Q-L330 was a "Scythian" subclade found among Tien Shan and Tuva Sakas as well as Alans in the Caucasus. Could be your Scythian heritage.

[Javiberius]

Q-L330 was a "Scythian" subclade found among Tien Shan and Tuva Sakas as well as Alans in the Caucasus. Could be your Scythian heritage.

That’s exactly what I’ve been told by the administrators in Q-M242 project group at Family Tree DNA. I show up with Scythian in mytrueancestry ancestral timeline dating back 290 BC.

Peterski doesn’t know what he’s talking about. Smh... Q-L330 never made its way to the Americas. I have distant relatives in Europe with a common male ancestor with me who are also most obviously Q-L330.

[Blondie]

Q is altaic (turkic-mongol) and amerindian haplogroup. It arrived to Europe with huns, turkic tribes and mongols, this is your paternal origin. And doesn't matter your Y haplogroup, 70% of finns have n1c siberian haplogroup and they are blnode nordic peoples. Y haplogroup shows your paternal origin, what was in 1000, 2000 or more years ago, but autosomaly dna can be very different because of mixing for centuries.

[Jana]

There are two TA users with haplogroup Q that I know about. One is Ashkenazi Jew (doesn't post anymore) and other is Pomak/Balkan Turk (still active member). His name is Kaspias, he may help you with your haplogroup.

[Blondie]

By the way:

"Q1a2a1c (L330): the main subclade of the Mongols, also found among the Kazakhs and Uzbeks, as well as in Ukraine, Turkey and Greece (probably Mongolian and Turkic)"
https://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplogroup_Q_Y-DNA.shtml

Maybe you're are descedant of Genghis Khan, very possible.

[Dorian]

Khazar Jew?