Black Nationalism

[TheOldNorth]

Agree. Sounds perfectly reasonable.

Death to segregation; long live separation.

yeah except black nationalist are segregating themselves

[TheOldNorth]

Malcolm x was a black separatist and was quite racist himself. But honestly I don’t blame him given that he was speaking in the 60s when the nation was still fighting to get rid of segregation. So he’s speaking in the context of segregation. Like the Jews after the war who wanted their own state because they had been treated like dirt by Europeans for generations,he probably thought that Africans need to separate from European Americans because European Americans will never treat African Americans with the rights that they deserve. Remember that after the civil war, integration was forced on the south by military occupation during radical reconstruction, but after the occupation ended, the south went right into Jim Crow. So many African Americans likely thought that their euro counterparts would always find some way to continue to suppress them and the only way to liberate themselves is seperation entirely

he wanted blacks to turn to islam however, and that regardless of the era, is inexcusable

[coolfrenchguy]

Separation indicates another country. They would have to take land and start or buy an entire region. In this case illegal ownership of white property as it was in South Africa would be my bet.

Racist doesn't want a white boss, whether he is competent or the owner, the race does not matter.


There are black politicians in the USA and Barack Obama was president.



Is a Chinese community open to white Americans (their consumers), are oriental with a lot of culture and understand each other better. It is not an independent community, it is under the jurisdiction of the US government.

they try with liberia we have seen the results

[coolfrenchguy]

i don't understand your angle did you ask: does there is afro-american patriots? because nationalism is refering to a nation and USA are not really a nation,stricto sensu, but the union of the federal states , ,it's mean if a state like california for ex wants to make cessesion from the other states,it could been ,a kind of brexit if you prefer but you need to look back with all the cessesion war and the lincoln period to more understand deeply in some stratus there is a list of movies that you should seen if you are interrested on different subjects : 12 years of a slave the majordome(the butler) the last movie of katrin beglow: detroit, on real events the very long but very good movie of spielberg : amistad men of honor with cuba gooding jr glory,with denzel washington and morgan freeman hurricane carter the fact than the civic rights for the afro-american/blacks from the slavery descent in europe and in USA are quite completly different,in USA they acquire with very difficulties very lately there civic rights,where here in europe, even there were the colonisation, it's was quite completly different,it's also why BLACK PANTHERS were against the vietnam war,or more, refused to participate it because for them it's was the war of the white man

[The Lawspeaker]

Anti-white by default. I think that most blacks should be helped to "return" to Africa. The ghettoes should be cleared out anyway.

[coolfrenchguy]

oh yes the people who claim ancient Egyptians and Romans and Greeks and everyone else was black, and that all European and middle-eastern achievements where theirs, and are too stupid to understand the difference between sub-saharan and north-african africans

everybody knows than the pyramids were build by the redneck yankees

[Blondie]

I think that most blacks should be helped to "return" to Africa. The ghettoes should be cleared out anyway.

I agree with it. Btw what do you think about blacks who have normal education, european culture etc?

[Zeus]

they try with liberia we have seen the results

Anti-white by default. I think that most blacks should be helped to "return" to Africa. The ghettoes should be cleared out anyway.

I believe that after the civil war, even Lincoln encouraged many African Americans to "return" to Africa(via Liberia), but the vast majority did not go. Presumably even then they felt more connection to the USA than they did to some distant land of their ancestors, so I highly doubt they could be encouraged to go now. Nor would it really be right to encourage that given that they've been here as long or longer than most Euro Americans.

For the few African Americans who actually went to Liberia, them and their descendants were actually still very culturally American until even the modern day and they pretty much instituted a state which gave African Americans vastly more rights than the indigenous Africans(All political power was concentrated in the African American minority, whose leaders were often American-backed, American-educated, and African American culturally well into the modern period). So they pretty much became the colonialists themselves. If they "return" to Africa en masse again, I could see a similar situation occurring where these African American returnees completely take over the politics of the nation they immigrate to and pretty much become a semi-colonial satellite state of the USA which suppresses the rights of the indigenous Africans. so the situation being described would be terrible in almost all ways for all people involved imo.

[KMack]

What do you think? Are they anti-white?

That isn't nationalism, having separate hoods. There are countries that don't grant citizenship to whites like Liberia, and Sierra Leone though.

[coolfrenchguy]

Depends ,
Martin Luther King wasn't Anti White"i think" but he just wanted that Blacks get equal rights with whites and can
be equal valued member of American Society

In fact i believe he was more for peace,social justice and reconcilement between Black and White people in America.

Malcom X was more hardliner than him..

than there is worse than malcolm X,luis farrakhan is truly racist and anti-semitic,and anti-white, MLK was a protestant pastor,it's make all the difference,Islam and christianism haven't the same point of views