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    "The genetic component ANE descends from Ancient South Eurasian.

    Groups derived from the Ancient North Eurasians (ANE):

    Eastern European Hunter-Gatherer (EHG) is a lineage derived predominantly (75%) from ANE.[2] It is represented by two individuals from Karelia, one of Y-haplogroup R1a-M417, dated c. 8.4 kya, the other of Y-haplogroup J, dated c. 7.2 kya; and one individual from Samara, of Y-haplogroup R1b-P297, dated c. 7.6 kya. This lineage is closely related to the ANE sample from Afontova Gora, dated c. 18 kya. After the end of the Last Glacial Maximum, the WHG and EHG lineages merged in Eastern Europe, accounting for early presence of ANE-derived ancestry in Mesolithic Europe.[7] An Afontova Gora 3 female individual dated to c. 14.7 kya, is the earliest known individual with the derived allele of KITLG responsible for blond hair in modern Europeans, and is recorded in Mesolithic Eastern Europe as associated with the EHG lineage.[7]

    Caucasus Hunter-Gatherer (CHG) is represented by the Satsurblia individual dated ~13 kya (from the Satsurblia cave in Georgia), and carried 36% ANE-derived admixture.[8] While the rest of their ancestry is derived from the Dzudzuana cave individual dated ~26 kya, which lacked ANE-admixture,[8] Dzudzuana affinity in the Caucasus decreased with the arrival of ANE at ~13 kya Satsurblia.[8]

    Iran Neolithic (Iran_N) individuals dated ~8.5 kya carried 50% ANE-derived admixture and 50% Dzudzuana-related admixture,[8] marking them as different from other Near-Eastern and Anatolian Neolithics who didn't have ANE admixture.[8] Iran Neolithics were later replaced by Iran Chalcolithics, who were a mixture of Iran Neolithic and Near Eastern Levant Neolithic.[2]"

    Using this simple but effective calculator by Davidski, I counted ANE + ASE + East_Eurasian to total Early Scythian component:

    For example, Cumansky:

    Population
    ANE 17.17 Pct
    ASE 1.73 Pct

    WHG-UHG 64.37 Pct
    East_Eurasian 1.81 Pct
    West_African 0.35 Pct
    East_African 1.05 Pct
    ENF 13.51 Pct

    = 20.71%
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    I took the highest total % ANE + ASE + East_Eurasian from each Ethnic group, if you find higher share here:

    Early Hun Y-DNA Q-L712 (F999950)

    Population
    ANE 27.82 Pct
    ASE 1.76 Pct
    WHG-UHG 37.16 Pct
    East_Eurasian 30.24 Pct
    West_African -
    East_African 0.56 Pct
    ENF 2.46 Pct

    = 60.82%

    Tatar

    Population
    ANE 19.59 Pct
    ASE 3.18 Pct
    WHG-UHG 48.91 Pct
    East_Eurasian 11.25 Pct
    West_African 0.51 Pct
    East_African 0.56 Pct
    ENF 16.00 Pct

    = 34.02%

    Finnish

    Population
    ANE 20.61 Pct
    ASE 1.80 Pct
    WHG-UHG 66.41 Pct
    East_Eurasian 7.12 Pct
    West_African -
    East_African 0.83 Pct
    ENF 3.23 Pct

    = 29.53%

    Russian

    Population
    ANE 18.88 Pct
    ASE 1.99 Pct
    WHG-UHG 63.00 Pct
    East_Eurasian 4.35 Pct
    West_African 0.59 Pct
    East_African -
    ENF 11.19 Pct

    = 25.22%

    Turkish

    Population
    ANE 13.07 Pct
    ASE 4.08 Pct
    WHG-UHG 15.39 Pct
    East_Eurasian 7.24 Pct
    West_African 0.72 Pct
    East_African 4.90 Pct
    ENF 54.60 Pct

    = 24.39%

    Lithuanian

    Population
    ANE 20.25 Pct
    ASE 1.92 Pct
    WHG-UHG 71.61 Pct
    East_Eurasian 1.63 Pct
    West_African -
    East_African 0.31 Pct
    ENF 4.29 Pct

    = 23.80%

    South Polish

    Population
    ANE 17.77 Pct
    ASE 2.04 Pct
    WHG-UHG 65.36 Pct
    East_Eurasian 2.11 Pct
    West_African -
    East_African -
    ENF 12.72 Pct

    = 21.95%

    Belarusian

    Population
    ANE 17.00 Pct
    ASE 0.99 Pct
    WHG-UHG 63.79 Pct
    East_Eurasian 3.93 Pct
    West_African -
    East_African -
    ENF 14.29 Pct

    = 21.92%

    Hungarian

    Population
    ANE 16.79 Pct
    ASE 2.63 Pct
    WHG-UHG 63.87 Pct
    East_Eurasian 0.10 Pct
    West_African 0.14 Pct
    East_African 0.37 Pct
    ENF 16.11 Pct

    = 19.52%

    Slovak

    Population
    ANE 16.07 Pct
    ASE 1.41 Pct
    WHG-UHG 62.21 Pct
    East_Eurasian 1.62 Pct
    West_African 0.53 Pct
    East_African -
    ENF 18.16 Pct

    = 19.10%

    Swedish

    Population
    ANE 16.35 Pct
    ASE 2.53 Pct
    WHG-UHG 68.60 Pct
    East_Eurasian -
    West_African -
    East_African 1.16 Pct
    ENF 11.37 Pct

    = 18.88%

    Croatian

    Population
    ANE 15.90 Pct
    ASE 2.77 Pct
    WHG-UHG 58.99 Pct
    East_Eurasian -
    West_African 0.27 Pct
    East_African 1.40 Pct
    ENF 20.67 Pct

    = 18.67%

    Ukrainian

    Population
    ANE 16.31 Pct
    ASE 1.07 Pct
    WHG-UHG 63.56 Pct
    East_Eurasian 1.25 Pct
    West_African 2.51 Pct
    East_African 1.90 Pct
    ENF 13.39 Pct

    = 18.63%

    Czech

    Population
    ANE 15.89 Pct
    ASE 2.59 Pct
    WHG-UHG 64.69 Pct
    East_Eurasian -
    West_African 0.19 Pct
    East_African 1.26 Pct
    ENF 15.38 Pct

    = 18.48%

    Romanian

    Population
    ANE 13.72 Pct
    ASE 3.12 Pct
    WHG-UHG 47.72 Pct
    East_Eurasian 0.28 Pct
    West_African 0.24 Pct
    East_African -
    ENF 34.93 Pct

    = 17.12%

    Irish

    Population
    ANE 13.66 Pct
    ASE 2.21 Pct
    WHG-UHG 61.34 Pct
    East_Eurasian 0.54 Pct
    West_African 1.25 Pct
    East_African 0.28 Pct
    ENF 20.71 Pct

    = 16.41%

    Serbian

    Population
    ANE 14.51 Pct
    ASE 1.62 Pct
    WHG-UHG 55.39 Pct
    East_Eurasian -
    West_African 0.62 Pct
    East_African -
    ENF 27.86 Pct

    = 16.13%

    Moldovan

    Population
    ANE 13.47 Pct
    ASE 1.32 Pct
    WHG-UHG 50.98 Pct
    East_Eurasian 0.69 Pct
    West_African 0.56 Pct
    East_African 1.50 Pct
    ENF 31.47 Pct

    = 15.48%

    French

    Population
    ANE 12.97 Pct
    ASE 1.65 Pct
    WHG-UHG 59.52 Pct
    East_Eurasian 0.70 Pct
    West_African 0.09 Pct
    East_African 0.26 Pct
    ENF 24.81 Pct

    = 15.32%

    1/2 Finnish 1/2 African

    Population
    ANE 10.71 Pct
    ASE -
    WHG-UHG 35.46 Pct
    East_Eurasian 4.15 Pct
    West_African 6.47 Pct
    East_African 29.83 Pct
    ENF 13.36 Pct

    = 14.86%

    Ashkenazi Jew Y-DNA J-M267

    Population
    ANE 10.21 Pct
    ASE 0.88 Pct
    WHG-UHG 33.16 Pct
    East_Eurasian 2.46 Pct
    West_African 0.72 Pct
    East_African 0.72 Pct
    ENF 51.85 Pct

    = 13.55%

    Montenegrin

    Population
    ANE 11.85 Pct
    ASE 1.04 Pct
    WHG-UHG 53.62 Pct
    East_Eurasian -
    West_African 0.58 Pct
    East_African 0.69 Pct
    ENF 32.22 Pct

    = 12.89%

    Greek

    Population
    ANE 11.48 Pct
    ASE 1.29 Pct
    WHG-UHG 40.94 Pct
    East_Eurasian -
    West_African 0.08 Pct
    East_African -
    ENF 46.21 Pct

    = 12.77%

    Italian

    ANE 8.89%
    ASE 1.18%
    WHG-UHG 33.98%
    East_Eurasian -
    West_African 0.94%
    East_African 0.30%
    ENF 54.71%

    = 10.07%

    Spanish

    Population
    ANE 8.23 Pct
    ASE 1.83 Pct
    WHG-UHG 55.59 Pct
    East_Eurasian -
    West_African 0.88 Pct
    East_African 2.39 Pct
    ENF 31.08 Pct

    = 10.06%

    Moroccan

    Population
    ANE -
    ASE -
    WHG-UHG 24.53 Pct
    East_Eurasian 0.94 Pct
    West_African -
    East_African 24.03 Pct
    ENF 50.49 Pct

    = 0.94%






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    Population
    ANE 15.84 Pct
    ASE 1.58 Pct
    WHG-UHG 34.61 Pct
    East_Eurasian 7.42 Pct
    West_African -
    East_African 1.11 Pct
    ENF 39.45 Pct

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    "Genomic studies also indicate that ANE was introduced to Western Europe by way of the Yamna/Yamnaya culture, long after the Paleolithic.[3][1] The ANE genetic component is visible in tests of the Yamnaya people, and seems to make up 50% of their ancestry indirectly.[3][1] It is also reported in modern-day Europeans (7%–25% ANE admixture), but not of Europeans predating the Bronze Age."

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    Population
    ANE 15.12
    WHG-UHG 40.16 Pct
    East_Eurasian 1.83 Pct
    West_African 0.91 Pct
    East_African 0.55 Pct
    ENF 37.88 Pct

    =20.5%
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    Population

    ANE17.73 Pct
    ASE2.46 Pct
    WHG-UHG57.71 Pct
    East_Eurasian2.44 Pct
    West_African0.85 Pct
    East_African-
    ENF18.81 Pct

    %22.63

    Sardinians should score close to 0 on this right?

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    Population

    ANE17.73 Pct
    ASE2.46 Pct
    WHG-UHG57.71 Pct
    East_Eurasian2.44 Pct
    West_African0.85 Pct
    East_African-
    ENF18.81 Pct

    %22.63

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