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    The article was published by Strategic Culture Foundation, which is based in Moscow and funded by the Kremlin. The author, Finian Cunningham, is a contributor for various Russian media outlets such as RT, Sputnik & Strategic Culture Foundation.

    Finian Cunningham is an award-winning journalist who has written extensively on international affairs. Originally from Belfast, Northern Ireland, he holds a Master’s degree in Agricultural Chemistry and worked as scientific editor for the Royal Society of Chemistry in Cambridge, before entering a career in news. Over 20 years he edited and wrote for major news media organizations, including The Mirror, Irish Times and Irish Independent. Now a freelance commenter based in East Africa, his columns appear on RT, Sputnik & Strategic Culture Foundation. He is the winner of the Serena Shim Award for Uncompromising Integrity in Journalism (2019).
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    The article was published by Strategic Culture Foundation, which is based in Moscow and funded by the Kremlin. The author, Finian Cunningham, is a contributor for various Russian media outlets such as RT, Sputnik & Strategic Culture Foundation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawspeaker View Post
    Maybe the West should make it clear to China: leave Hong Kong within 24 hours and declare their's and Taiwan's independence or there will be a total boycott of Chinese products and the immediate seizure of all Chinese-held assets in the West. "You can't afford..." The nerve these chinks have. It's them that can't afford it because they need our investments and they need us to buy their crap so it's us that have them by the balls.
    Maybe you should reconsider your knowledge on the subject. Last time I checked there is no 'us'. West isn't some uniform political entity but multitude of agents each with his own interests often contradicting one another. While one part of the West may prepare for boycott the other will gladly trade and invest.

    For example in 1930's Bank of England had stopped exchange of US dollars to British pounds effectively isolating US from world market. Guess where US bucks went? Right, to another two isolated entities - Nazi Germany and USSR. Because capitals need to flow so they don't care for political affiliations. Even when US declared war on Germany American companies were still trading with Nazis.

    So good luck with your boycott. You'll really need it to succeed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sean View Post
    For the New Territories, for the bulk of Hong Kong, Britain had won by right of conquest,
    And later had given up these rights so all the rest is irrelevant. Hong Kong is China now. Deal with it.

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    America is ready to send in the carriers to liberate Hong Kong. Britain will send theirs too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarmatian View Post
    And later had given up these rights so all the rest is irrelevant. Hong Kong is China now. Deal with it.
    If that's true, then why the fuck are there HK protesters fighting to be taken back by Britain?

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    Quote Originally Posted by wvwvw View Post
    China Slaps Britain: You Can’t Afford Hostility
    By Finian Cunningham
    Strategic Culture
    September 14, 2019



    China gave Britain a stern warning this week that any naval maneuvers conducted with the US near its declared territories in the South China Sea will be met with a military response.

    Beijing rapped London further, telling it to dump its “colonial attitude” with regard to Hong Kong. However, the ultimate leverage, was the caustic reminder to Britain that if it wants to trade with China in the future, then it better mind its manners.

    Given the deepening turmoil over Brexit and the uncertain economic prospects once Britain quits the European Union, the British government is going to need every trading opportunity around the world it can muster. Keeping on good terms with China, the globe’s second-biggest national economy, will therefore be crucial for Britain’s post-Brexit survival.

    Since taking office in July, Prime Minister Boris Johnson has been quick to talk up a future golden era of bilateral trade relations with Beijing. He has expressed an interest in China’s Belt and Road Initiative for global trade, and he has even dared to ruffle US President Donald Trump by calling for an end to the tariffs and trade war with Beijing, thus implying the White House’s hardball policy is wrongheaded

    But here’s the tricky balancing act facing Britain. In trying to ingratiate itself with both Washington and Beijing for future trade deals, London is caught in an awkward contradiction. To do Washington’s bidding, Britain will be obliged to join forces for fomenting aggression against China.

    China this week preempted that development by telling Britain in no uncertain terms that it can’t afford to antagonize Beijing without foregoing future trade and investment. In short, London has to make a decision: does it want war, or peace and prosperity with China?

    The rebuke from Beijing followed a visit to London last week by US Secretary of State Mike Esper. During a major set-piece speech, Esper called on Britain and other European states to focus on confronting China and Russia, whom he accused of posing as aggressors.

    “It is increasingly clear that Russia and China want to disrupt the international order by gaining a veto over other nations’ economic, diplomatic, and security decisions,” Esper said, seemingly unaware of the absurd hypocrisy of his words.

    There have also been suggestions that Britain’s warships will be joining with US forces in so-called “freedom of navigation” patrols in the South China Sea. The recently launched super aircraft carrier, Queen Elizabeth, is designed to be capable of hosting up to 70 US F-35 fighter jets. The temptation for London will be to join Esper’s rallying call because of the need to pander to Washington for future trade favors.

    China’s ambassador to Britain, Liu Xiaoming, told media that if Britain embarks on such missions anywhere near islands claimed as Chinese territory, especially if the British are seen to be liaising with the Americans, then it will be viewed as “hostile”. The diplomat said such a development will be met with a military response.

    He warned London not do America’s “dirty work” and rebuffed claims about “freedom of navigation” concerns as a cynical pretext for provocation.

    Ambassador Liu said: “The South China Sea is a vast ocean, it is three million square kilometers wide. We have no objection to people sailing around there but do not enter Chinese territorial waters within twelve nautical miles. If you don’t do that, there shouldn’t be a problem. The South China Sea is wide enough to have free navigation of shipping.”

    Major General Su Guanghui, the Chinese defense attaché in London, said that his country will continue to take a combative stance in what it considers to be incursions into its territories: “If the US and UK join hands in a challenge or violated the sovereignty and territorial integrity of China, that would be hostile action.”

    Last year, Britain sent a warship HMS Albion near Chinese-claimed territory in the South China Sea, which led to a naval confrontation and break down in bilateral relations. That maneuver was under the watch of former Defense Secretary Gavin Williamson who habitually used bellicose rhetoric describing China (and Russia) as global threats.

    China’s ambassador to Britain categorically stated that there can be no repeat of this British naval conduct near Chinese-claimed territory. Don’t even think about it, was the tone.

    Nevertheless, the diplomat said that China wants to develop cooperative relations with Britain to boost trade and investment. He said that Britain would lose out massively from new telecoms infrastructure development if a proposed partnership with Chinese telecoms giant Huawei is jettisoned – under American pressure.

    Thus, Britain has a simple choice really. It can either continue to serve as a henchman for Washington by offending China’s sovereign rights, or London can wise up and ditch its pretensions of colonial-era gunboat diplomacy. That means treating Beijing with the basic respect consistent with international norms.

    It seems the days of British subterfuge and aggression on behalf of Uncle Sam are over. It’s totally unacceptable for such presumed privilege to wield aggression with impunity. And it is especially unviable when post-Brexit Britain is shaping up to be scuttling around the globe with a begging bowl for trade deals.

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    First of all, in Hong Kong the former British colony holding the Chinese there are protesting because they prefer the Anglo way of doing things compared to the rest of China. There is more to live than money and based on political forms of government when push comes to shove Britain should side with America because :

    China grew stronger and richer within the last tow decades, without moving one inch closer to constitutional government. The Chinese Communist Party has got “over the hump” into a plateau of stability that, barring severe environmental catastrophe, will last for decades. Rich and confident, unrestrained by electoral considerations or Judeo-Christian ethics, or any other kind of ethics, they will do all the things we dare not do: human genetic experimentation, culling of “useless mouths,” militarization of space, minor wars of aggression, etc...

    ^^ The Chinese are evil by Christian standards and they are not even close to a parliamentary Democracy which is a core feature of British identity.Also, their allies the Russians are autocratic capitalist which is not even close to a Democracy as well

    Second of all Britain does not need cheap Chinese trinkets. If you have ever been to a dollar store in America or in another anglo-sphere place you can see what shoddy shit they are trying to spray all over the globe and that includes Huawei's telecom infrastructure with insecure hackable chinese backdoor's in them :

    A scam. A publicity stunt. Premature. These are just a few of the things Chinese developers are saying about the release of Huawei's supposed secret weapon: The Ark Compiler. From a report:

    Developers are even claiming the program feels incomplete. The reception has been so bad that one programmer told Abacus that he wondered whether it was released just for publicity. "Maybe they're doing it to help in the PR and trade war, adding leverage against the US," said Max Zhou, co-founder of app-enhancement company MetaApp and former head of engineering at Mobike. The Ark Compiler is a key component of Huawei's new operating system, HarmonyOS. The tool is meant to allow developers to quickly port their Android apps to the new OS, ideally helping to quickly bridge the gap of app availability. It is also said to be able to improve the efficiency of Android apps, making them as smooth as apps on iOS. As of right now, though, developers say promises are too good to be true.

    https://www.abacusnews.com/tech/prog...rticle/3027652

    So backdoor's can be hidden in compiler's even if they are open source; it's worth noting that such backdoors can also be hidden into an original binary used to bootstrap the compiler, so an open source compiler must also be bootstrapped from a known-good compiler, preferably one small enough to be checked by human eyeballs. The wiki article also discusses another method, described as "Diverse Double-Compiling," to compare the output of diverse compilers, to eliminate the possibility of a compiler backdoor, which IMHO could only verify that either both or neither compilers are backdoored.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Backdo...iler_backdoors

    Third of all if China and Russia every go to war with Britain obviously America , New Zealand , and Australia would get involved and China would probably lose because America just has better weapons and the British are no slouches here either and the British SAS and NAVY SEALs are just more elite than anything the Chinese have and even better than the Russian special forces. Also, America's nuclear warheads combined with Britain's nuclear warheads equal a shit ton of nuclear weapons.






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    Globohomo west must return to realistic values of family and anti-degeneracy.
    Otherwise im with the chinks on this.

    Also lol at the Anglos stuck in their 1800s imperialism mode. Keep feeding those jews those shekels with your wars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sean View Post
    If that's true, then why the fuck are there HK protesters fighting to be taken back by Britain?
    There are multitude of reasons.

    From my understanding the HK political elite was tightly connected to Kuomintang and provided political asylum to some with long tail of war crimes from Chinese Civil War. Current Chinese government have no statute of limitations on such crimes and will lock anyone they found guilty of it or associated with it as soon as they reach those people. Some may have reasons to be afraid of capital punishment. That alone is enough to keep stirring unrest by those with capacity for it.

    Then there are business interests. Influential people with big money have much to lose if Communist party will assume full political control over region. Plus these people are tightly connected with the first group so they have mutual interests.

    We shall not forget criminals. HK is massive transit hub for drugs and we can be sure both local authorities and business have their hands in it. Because it is next to impossible to keep illegal operations of that scale on such small isolated territory without cover from top. We also know how communists deal with drug dealers in mainland China.

    All of that presents the real driving interests behind protests. There are sure many genuinely concerned citizen brainwashed into their political stance by anti-communist propaganda. The problem is none of them have any real experience living under current CCP government. Most likely if they are ordinary law abiding citizen the change of government won't make much difference in their everyday lives. All these protests are fueled by those staying in shades.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarmatian View Post
    There are multitude of reasons. From my understanding the HK political elite was tightly connected to Kuomintang and provided political asylum to some with long tail of war crimes from Chinese Civil War. Current Chinese government have no statute of limitations on such crimes and will lock anyone they found guilty of it or associated with it as soon as they reach those people. Some may have reasons to be afraid of capital punishment. That alone is enough to keep stirring unrest by those with capacity for it.
    History lesson.

    The Chinese Communists in mainland were aided by British (((Internationals))) in order to take down the Kuomintang who hated the British.

    Now they are folding into the Communist party's control. Taiwan's Kuomintang has more in common with the modern communist mainland party now, and Hong Kong has been subverted since the reunification.

    Hong Kong protestors are actually influenced by the Sunflower Student Movement in Taiwan, that succeeded in getting that black box trade deal cancelled, albeit by exploiting pre-existing rivalries within the Kuomintang.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sarmatian View Post
    We shall not forget criminals. HK is massive transit hub for drugs and we can be sure both local authorities and business have their hands in it. Because it is next to impossible to keep illegal operations of that scale on such small isolated territory without cover from top. We also know how communists deal with drug dealers in mainland China.
    RT propaganda.

    Lin Zexu personally started the first Opium War in 1839 that China lost, resulting in the forfeiture of Hong Kong to Britain. He was exiled and his family fell into ill favour with the government.

    In 1984, China came up with the Declaration which would return Hong Kong to China, the diplomat who presented it to the UN was naturally China’s chief representative to the UN, Ling Qing, “just so happened” to be Lin Zexu’s great great grandson.

    The British maintained financial control of China via the People’s Bank of China (Chinese central bank) and by controlling their access to foreign capital through Hong Kong.

    Being a closed political system, they were actually quite easy to control over time. Currently, China sees the Crown’s power being stripped from them throughout the world, and Xi is trying to wrestle his country free. This is manifesting itself in the Hong Kong protests.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sarmatian View Post
    There are sure many genuinely concerned citizen brainwashed into their political stance by anti-communist propaganda. The problem is none of them have any real experience living under current CCP government. Most likely if they are ordinary law abiding citizen the change of government won't make much difference in their everyday lives. All these protests are fueled by those staying in shades.
    https://twitter.com/HongKongFP/statu...45243287719942

    The only people who support communism are those who have never lived under a communist regime. Even the Romanovs created a far more equitable system of peasant-noble relations and people lives got better.

    Unfortunately for communists, there are people alive today who have lived under communism and actually know what it's like. Many of them on this very forum. There is no mystery here.

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