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    World Civilization Research Association Vice President and Secretary-General Zhai Guiyun (Sina Online photo)
    World Civilization Research Association Vice President and Secretary-General Zhai Guiyun (Sina Online photo)

    TAIPEI (Taiwan News) – “World Civilization Research Association” (世界文明研究促進會) scholars are claiming that Western civilization originates from China and all European languages are merely Mandarin dialects, the Liberty Times reports.

    World Civilization Research Association Vice President and Secretary-General Zhai Guiyun (翟桂鋆) said during an interview with Sina Online that some English words derive from Mandarin. For example, “yellow” resembles Mandarin for “leaf falling” (葉落, yeluo) because it is the color of autumn, while “heart” resembles “core” (核的, hede).

    Zhai concluded this “proves” English is, in fact, a “dialect” of Mandarin. He further claimed that after Chinese formed the English language, Russian, French, German, and other European-based languages, went through a similar process of sinicization.

    The World Civilization Research Association group of scholars are professors from a number of Chinese academic institutions. Association member Zhu Xuanshi (諸玄識) further claimed that Western civilization is a “sub-civilization” of Chinese culture.

    He said Europeans “felt ashamed” due to the “fact” there was no history in Europe before the 15th century, compared to China. In an attempt to paper over this historical humiliation, the Europeans “fabricated” stories about ancient Egyptian, Greek, and Roman civilizations – all based on Chinese history.


    World Civilization Research Association founder Du Gangjian (杜鋼建) said the organization has set up branches in the U.S., Canada, U.K., Thailand, South Korea, and Madagascar to “restore” the truth of world history. “Do not let fake, Western-centered history hinder the great Sino-Renaissance,” he was quoted as saying.

    Many Chinese citizens were unconvinced, however, with some mocking the association members by calling them “Wolf Warrior Scholars” – which references a patriotic Chinese movie. “Thanks, we can no longer laugh at the Koreans who claimed Confucius and Genghis Khan are Korean,” one commenter sardonically lamented.

    https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/new...okwG-zwicd6hAQ

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    very dumb, do they not know that english comes from a much older northwest germanic dialect in which heart and yellow would've been very different
    Last edited by TheOldNorth; 09-14-2019 at 06:36 PM.

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    He said Europeans “felt ashamed” due to the “fact” there was no history in Europe before the 15th century, compared to China. In an attempt to paper over this historical humiliation, the Europeans “fabricated” stories about ancient Egyptian, Greek, and Roman civilizations – all based on Chinese history.
    Zhai concluded this “proves” English is, in fact, a “dialect” of Mandarin. He further claimed that after Chinese formed the English language, Russian, French, German, and other European-based languages, went through a similar process of sinicization.

    hahahahahaahah

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1R0N M4N XL View Post
    hahahahahaahah
    yeah like have they never heard of rome? greece? the great celtic tribal confederations that invented chainmail, long swords, and better helmets that spread across half of europe?

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    I agree with him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mingle View Post
    I agree with him.
    who's him

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    I thought that were the Turks at the origin of everything
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheOldNorth View Post
    who's him
    The Chinese guy mentioned in the OP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mingle View Post
    The Chinese guy mentioned in the OP.
    you kidding me? chinese dialects literally couldn't get any further from indo-european, no noun declension, lots of tones, short syllable-long words, no past or future tense, completely different phonology. Even in the realms of more theoretical linguistics, chinese is put closer to basque then indo-european, and even Japanese is closer

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    It's so stupid that I can't really take it seriously. Kind of funny actually.... lol

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